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[Putnam]

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[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:CORE_LAYERS_GNORM]
[BP_LAYERS:BY_CATEGORY:BODY_UPPER:MUSCLE:100:FAT:10:SKIN:1]
Does the CHERUB_DAEMONIAC have the correct categories for its BPs?

[WillowLuman]

It would appear, at least, that the core ones do:

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body_gnorm

[OBJECT:BODY]

[BODY:CHERUB_DAEMONIAC]
[BP:UB:upper body:upper bodies][UPPERBODY][CATEGORY:BODY_UPPER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:1000]
[BP:LB:lower body:lower bodies][CON:UB][LOWERBODY][CATEGORY:BODY_LOWER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:1000]
[BP:HD:head:STP][CON:UB][HEAD][HEAR][CATEGORY:HEAD]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:300]
[BP:RUA:right upper arm:STP][CON:UB][LIMB][RIGHT][CATEGORY:ARM_UPPER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]
[BP:LUA:left upper arm:STP][CON:UB][LIMB][LEFT][CATEGORY:ARM_UPPER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]
[BP:RLA:right lower arm:STP][CON:RUA][LIMB][RIGHT][CATEGORY:ARM_LOWER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]
[BP:LLA:left lower arm:STP][CON:LUA][LIMB][LEFT][CATEGORY:ARM_LOWER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]
[BP:RH:right hand:STP][CON:RLA][GRASP][RIGHT][CATEGORY:HAND]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:LH:left hand:STP][CON:LLA][GRASP][LEFT][CATEGORY:HAND]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:RWING:right wing:STP][CON:UB][LIMB][RIGHT][FLIER][CATEGORY:WING]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:500]
[BP:LWING:left wing:STP][CON:UB][LIMB][LEFT][FLIER][CATEGORY:WING]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:500]
[BP:RUL:right upper leg:STP][CON:LB][LIMB][RIGHT][CATEGORY:LEG_UPPER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:500]
[BP:LUL:left upper leg:STP][CON:LB][LIMB][LEFT][CATEGORY:LEG_UPPER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:500]
[BP:RLL:right lower leg:STP][CON:RUL][LIMB][RIGHT][CATEGORY:LEG_LOWER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:400]
[BP:LLL:left lower leg:STP][CON:LUL][LIMB][LEFT][CATEGORY:LEG_LOWER]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:400]
[BP:RF:right foot:right feet][CON:RLL][STANCE][RIGHT][CATEGORY:FOOT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:120]
[BP:LF:left foot:left feet][CON:LLL][STANCE][LEFT][CATEGORY:FOOT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:120]
[BP:NO:nose:STP][CON:FE][BREATHE][SMELL][CATEGORY:NOSE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:20]
[BP:FE:face:STP][CON:HD][SIGHT][CATEGORY:FACE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:150]
[BP:BN:brain:STP][CON:HD][NERVOUS][THOUGHT][INTERNAL][SMALL][CATEGORY:BRAIN]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200]

[BODY:CHEST]
[BP:CS:chest:STP][CON:UB][CATEGORY:CHEST]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:160]

[Halfling]

I suppose it falls on me to make a judgment in this, as it deals with rules and turn order. Here's what I think:
1. Your "turn" will be listed as unofficial addition before Putnam
2. Therefore, since he has to deal with it, ask his permission about content. It must be fit for addition - complete with no errors. Putnam, may he add stuff? Specifically, his adepts of the mind and allies? What about the trolls, would you plug those in too? Not that I'm pushing them or anything
The leather armors made earlier might help halfling survival and are ready too.)
3. When fixing, use the logic of "it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission". See the newest content editing rule. You can easily spend more time calling people about changes and permissions than you would writing and listing the bugfix and reverting if they yelp. Just honor their intentions, flavor and objections. I love good manners, but our goal must be playability and code correctness (and speedy development), not political correctness long term, when those conflict Ps. Phone post

[Halfling]

Check that gnorm skin and tissue templates are correct

[WillowLuman]

At the very least I'm bugfixing all the stuff. Adherents, Trolls, Talking Bears. All of it.

Putnam, it's up to you if any of it's included. As of right now, the Adherents, Trolls, and Talking Bears are error-free (it's the Cherubim that are the problem, currently).

The previously unfinished (but now finished) creatures of mine I wanted to include are:
-Swamp Nautilus (And Great Swamp Nautilus)
-Giant Squid (Oceanic only, like IRL.)
-Common Nautilus (Fishable vermin)
-Fishable vermin squid (Of 3 varieties)

EDIT: An excerpt from Gnorm's tissue template:

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tissue_template_gnorm

[OBJECT:TISSUE_TEMPLATE]

[TEMPLATE_TEMPLATE:SKIN_TEMPLATE_GNORM]
[TISSUE_NAME:skin:STP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SKIN]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
[HEALING_RATE:75]
[PAIN_RECEPTORS:2]
[CONNECTS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]

[Halfling]

Will you tackle mamaphint issues too? Listed in wiki. The profession fix was discussed with SKH already.

[WillowLuman]

I already fixed the spelling issues with the Mamaphints. They're now "Golden Mamaphints"

Hmm, I think the Talking Bears can wait until Gnorm's turn officially begins, unless there's a strong demand for otherwise.

[Putnam]

Putnam, may he add stuff?

Always.

[Halfling]

There you have it. Putnam could just as well add it himself, so it makes sense he calls it.

The mat. template?

[WillowLuman]

Excerpt:

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material_template_organic_gnorm

[OBJECT:MATERIAL_TEMPLATE]

[MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SKIN_TEMPLATE_GNORM]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:WHITE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1][STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:skin]
[STATE_COLOR:LIQUID:RED]
[STATE_NAME:LIQUID:fluid skin]
[STATE_ADJ:LIQUID:fluid skin]
[STATE_COLOR:GAS:RED]
[STATE_NAME:GAS:skin smoke]
[STATE_ADJ:GAS:skin smoke]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:255:255:255]
[SPEC_HEAT:1000]
[IGNITE_POINT:15000]
[MELTING_POINT:20000]
[BOILING_POINT:20000]
[HEATDAM_POINT:13000]
[COLDDAM_POINT:9950]
[SOLID_DENSITY:1500]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:1000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:40000]
[IMPACT_YIELD:10000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:10000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[TENSILE_YIELD:10000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:10000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[TORSION_YIELD:10000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:10000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:20000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:20000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[BENDING_YIELD:10000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:10000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:50000]
[MAX_EDGE:0]
[ABSORPTION:100]
[IMPLIES_ANIMAL_KILL]
I hope for this fix to take only 2 days. If I get no reply from someone over the course of tomorrow, I'll just go by consensus.

Afterwards, I'd like to write a guide to classifying creatures and targeting syndromes/interactions, including a treemap. I've taken the liberty of adding a "resistance class" based on radiation syndromes I found in the inorganic raws. No creature uses the class yet but people can add them later, or request them for existing creatures during bugfixing.

Wisps of Rage are now classified as any other organic bug, but also as corporeal spirits and demons.

[Halfling]

Gnorm's skin tissue template appears to be defined as a "TEMPLATE_TEMPLATE" rather than "TISSUE_TEMPLATE" causing the issue

[WillowLuman]

Well, what a relief! We're officially Error-free! I just want to get some feedback on the reclassification before I pack it up for upload. Oh, and I need to add the txt file for the troll taunts.

[Halfling]

Didn't it come with the updated upload? Get that one anyway, please, it contains other good lesser fixes.

[WillowLuman]

If it's the one where they're already reclassified, from DFFD, then that's the one I grabbed. I'll get the txt file from your post, though.

[WillowLuman]

Actually, might be better if you just update the DFFD upload of trolls to include the taunting and interactions. I didn't have to do anything to fix the ones I downloaded anyway, and you'd do a better job adding it on your end.