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[WillowLuman]

I still say we shouldn't make the mod dependant on DFhack. Maybe some optional tidbits if people want, but we mustn't make anything central to gameplay that requires it.

[PDF urist master]

i think there should be a player's guide for every race. to my knowledge there's only one for halflings and Formics.

[Halfling]

My bad. I forgot to add a link to ZTG's lizardfolk guide in development to the first post (strange, I thought I did). It's there now.

[kopout]

Milk thought.
The first step in making cheese is curdling the milk into, well, curds. This produces the curds as well as a thin watery milk called whey. We could have a reaction that takes raw milk (drinkable) and makes curds(cheeseable) and whey(drinkable). the curds would then be used in the hardcoded "make cheese" reaction. We would need to tell people though so they don't wonder why they can't make cheese even though they have plenty of milk.

[Halfling]

Interesting. If that's workable, then it's a winner for cleverness and realism.

the curds would then be used in the hardcoded "make cheese" reaction

How does one accomplish this? There's no such item token as MILK or one assigned to milk in the wiki. I assumed therefore milk usable that way can only be made by milking.

[kopout]

these two tokens
              [REACTION_CLASS:MILK]
   [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:CHEESE_MAT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:CHEESE]
and maybe this one

   [LIQUID_MISC_CREATURE]
Are all that make milk milk. Cheese making is a hard coded reaction that requires a reagent with [REACTION_CLASS:MILK] and produces what ever is listed as the cheese mat. It's kind of like tanning in that regard, we just can't see it is all. The reagent must also not have any alcohol tags apparently.


Edit: sorry, computer gliched

[Halfling]

Oh. Right. Actually that explains everything. And probably something can't be LIQUID_MISC and ALCOHOL both then, so you can't have both. +1 for curds idea.

[kopout]

Sorry about the brevity, computer posted before I was done.

[Halfling]

Well, if the hardcoded reaction requires an item that's  LIQUID_MISC:NONE rather than NONE:NONE (iwc it would accept any item that has reaction class milk and can be made into cheese, even if it's a coffin with a dwarf buried inside, so it probably isn't), then the third tag should be necessary too.

If you then go and make it alcohol instead, maybe it becomes classified as DRINK. So then the reaction would have to require DRINK:NONE or NONE:NONE for it to work. The 1st makes no sense for Toady's non-drinkable milk scheme and the 2nd it probably is not. That would explain why it would not work if you add that token.

[reemer30]

the problem with the tea reaction should have been fixed when I uploaded the second edition of my turn, I may have uploaded the wrong file with the cherubs.

EDIT: I found that the file was indeed uploaded in the wrong version, as I have a few dozen DF folders. Fixed the file, just testing to make sure its working right.

[kopout]

It seems to work even with LIQUID_MISC removed. Very strange.

[reemer30]

Ok, uploaded the new version, tea is working, the cherubs are working, and added seasons to my plants that lacked them. One comment I have is that the lizardfolk seem a bit overabundant in most worlds I gen, not a big problem, but just thought I would mention it.

[kopout]

I've changed my materials to reflect the curds and whey method of cheese making. If its ok I will make a creature to be a template and example for how cheese making works in dffs.

[Halfling]

Some stats about the project so far. I was wondering how it was doing.

Spoiler: Stats from DFFD download pages (click to show/hide)

It seems the most popular turn ever was Laula's. Sackhead did not use DFFD so I was not able to get info on him. Hugo's stats sum both of his uploads.

[reemer30]

That's is very interesting, I feel like the interest in this has kinda dropped since laula's turn, maybe Putnam taking a turn will bring some more attention to this.