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[Halfling]

I would like a modding turn, please.

See? Too many wild animals are automatically hostile and extremely dangerous.

In general, almost all of the creatures made by this community want to kill you. Most of them are also very good at doing so.

Added. I'm also adding Mastertea to the front page.

[Halfling]

Just genned a world and I've begun play testing. the first thing I noticed was that the apple tree processing reaction at the lumber yard doesn't work (or I'm doing it wrong). It requires something called "Apple Tree Plant Logs" and I haven't been able to acquire those. Are they supposed to drop from the apple trees you cut down or do I have to gather/cut a special "fruit bearing" apple tree?

Edit: Aaaand I've lost my settlement. A group of 40 water striders came along, the poor guys didn't stand a chance

Confirmed. Water strider cluster size is 3-5 so the reason for there being 40 is unknown. Apple tree processing currently does NOT work, since apple trees leave apple wood logs usable for building and not apple tree logs. This is because changes were not added to the apple tree (which is correct by the rules but I did give permission to add them, I don't know if this was the cause of the confusion).

Current:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[PLANT:APPLE_HLG]
   [NAME:apple tree]
   [NAME_PLURAL:apple trees]
   [ADJ:apple tree]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURE:PLANT_STRUCTURE_HLG]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURE]
   [PREFSTRING:seductive fruit]
   [PREFSTRING:fruit and alcohol products made thereof]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:WOOD:PLANT_STRUCTURE_HLG]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:apple wood]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:apple wood]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:DARK_PEACH]
      [DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:0]
      [WOOD]
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:WOOD]
   [WET][DRY]
   [BIOME:ANY_LAND]
   [TREE_TILE:05]
   [TREE_COLOR:2:0:1]
   [SAPLING_COLOR:2:0:1]

Should be:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[PLANT:APPLE_HLG]
   [NAME:apple tree]
   [NAME_PLURAL:apple trees]
   [ADJ:apple tree]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURE:PLANT_STRUCTURE_HLG]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURE]
   [PREFSTRING:seductive fruit]
   [PREFSTRING:fruit and alcohol products made thereof]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:RAW_APPLE_TREE:PLANT_STRUCTURE_HLG]
      [STATE_NAME:ALL_SOLID:apple tree]
      [STATE_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:apple tree]
      [PREFIX:NONE]
      [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:DARK_PEACH]
      [DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:0]
   [TREE:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:RAW_APPLE_TREE]
   [WET][DRY]
   [BIOME:ANY_LAND]
   [TREE_TILE:05]
   [TREE_COLOR:2:0:1]
   [SAPLING_COLOR:2:0:1]

After that change, the reaction is automatic and seems to work as intended. (the only strange thing is it leaves e.g. "apple [2], apple, apple" which will probably be then stockpiled separately, but this is seemingly unavoidable for now unless you want to get rid of the randomness)

[Baffler]

Water strider cluster size is 3-5 so the reason for there being 40 is unknown.

Sorry, I should clarify. I was at the convergence of two minor rivers, with a big lake down in a crater.A few groups of them drifted in and settled in the crater lake. I had no idea what to expect from them, so I ignored them because they were, as far as I knew, unable to see my halflings at the top of the cliffs. My fisherman went down there at some point and they started chasing him. He ran away and led them back to my wagon.

[kopout]

I think my next project might be add some non-water strider river beasties.

Cherry trees are now more or less functional. They still need some polish though. Ultimately I plan to have apple, cherry, avocado, coconut, lemon, and some sort of made up deep tree as my fruit trees. Banana is probably going to be a very long lived shrub, I don't think it gives useful wood IRL. Exploding lemons might wind up being a thing eventually.

[mastahcheese]

Do we have actual fish yet?
We should give them a syndrome that mimics mercury poisoning.

[StLeibowitz]

Okay, the water strider thing is a bug I've known about and been unable to fix. Many pages ago, I posted a minor report of them tearing apart one of my expeditions on basically Day One. Then, I had started on a single river - no conflux, waterfall, lake, nothing - and there were around 20 of them swimming happily around. They're like carp that can breathe air, and for whatever reason arrive in forces that would make vanilla goblin sieges look tame 

@HugoLuman, feel free to start posting lovely butterflies and such We've provided the predators, and if you want some happy non-domesticated critters to dilute them, go ahead and make them yourself. I look forward to them (especially if you can get the dirigizelle functioning). Also, I'm trying to make a few benign wild animals myself, so that should help.

@mastahcheese, We have actual fish - trilobites, ammonites, and sea ants, as sea vermin, and sea scorpions (and giant ones) as ocean predators that are aquatic. I think someone else posted some sea life, too, but I can't for the life of me remember who. Sackhead, perhaps?

[Halfling]

Do we have actual fish yet?
We should give them a syndrome that mimics mercury poisoning.

There are fish*, and that only makes sense if there's mercury pollution from industrial use.

Instead, add pufferfish, that cause numbness of the tongue and then full paralysis if prepared and eaten, to the fish repertoire. It's better if they are somewhat rare so you may think fishing is still a somewhat good idea.

*water insects

[mastahcheese]

Maybe if you just prepare them normally they are poisonous, but if you extract them first then they are safe?
Would give fish extraction a purpose.

[Halfling]

I honestly don't know if that's possible, but you could add prepare pufferfish as an automatic detoxifying reaction that uses fish dissection in the kitchen. So if you have an idle fish dissector, good. If not, bad.

Likewise you could actually have a lot of toxic animals and things that only become safe to eat after dissecting/broiling/processing.

[mastahcheese]

Hey! You could do that to make tarnish stalks edible!

[Halfling]

Tarnish stalk ---broil tarnish stalks (herbalism, kitchen)---> broiled tarnish stalks + tarnish stalk tarnish (usable for invader defense) ---> tarnished vodka/prepared food
that would save a thousand tears. Even our newest playtesting story fort brought a ton of toxic stuff and is just waiting to find out.

Then you could also add a "dump toxic barrel/bucket contents" reaction to get rid of the toxins or spread them on the ground if that works.

[Meph]

Or use dfhacks SPATTER_ADD to put it on weapons, ammo and trapparts.

[mastahcheese]

Tarnish stalk ---broil tarnish stalks (herbalism, kitchen)---> broiled tarnish stalks + tarnish stalk tarnish (usable for invader defense) ---> tarnished vodka/prepared food
that would save a thousand tears. Even our newest playtesting story fort brought a ton of toxic stuff and is just waiting to find out.

Then you could also add a "dump toxic barrel/bucket contents" reaction to get rid of the toxins or spread them on the ground if that works.

I just set mine to dump, then they pick it up with their bare hands somehow and chuck it wherever you tell them.
But I think I might do that.

[WillowLuman]

One of my goals for this turn is adding plenty more fishable creatures. Say, does this latest version of the RAWs include the apple wood fix?

[kopout]

I think it's actually still sackhead's mod turn