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[George_Chickens]

I wish Dominions wasn't so damn expensive. I'd be buying copies for all of my friends if each of them didn't cost almost 50 Australian dollars.

[Frumple]

Keep an eye out, then. Even D4's had some pretty good sales already.

[AlStar]

I wish Dominions wasn't so damn expensive. I'd be buying copies for all of my friends if each of them didn't cost almost 50 Australian dollars.

https://steamdb.info/app/259060/ shows that the game's had as high as a 75% discount (although those are just single day deals), but 40% and 60% deals look like they come around decently often.

[ThtblovesDF]

Looking for a replacement for Scaleria in Bay425

It is in a great place, 20-25 ish provinces, armys with a headcount of 1000 undead or so and a about equally sized enemy, afaik.


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[chaoticag]

1000 or so undead is a bit underselling it. Might be about 10000 really, give or take 2000. In the spirit of fairplay willing to share what tactics I had used in the war I had with Scaleria and what counters scaleria herself used in order to fight back. Since I dunno what sorta scouting data is available, will limit things to stuff I have seen in battles.

[George_Chickens]

Man, how do you even deal with that many undead?

[Frumple]

Priests, priests everywhere. Some anti-undead AoE stuff out there, too. Killing off commanders, helps, too. Just... maybe not assassins. You probably don't want to get in an assassin fight with scaleria.

[George_Chickens]

hahaha, questions were answered in an edit to the post above. Oops.

Anyway, does anyone here have any good strategies for dealing with Ulm? My friends and I have been co-op'ing against the AI (not enough players for a decent free for all), and by the time we get to Ulm, assuming the AI hasn't already destroyed them, they often have armies involving 200+ black plate armour soldiers and close to (occasionally over) 1000 men in their doomstacks. I'm just not sure how to deal with that when our footsoldiers can't compete with them 1v1, neither outnumber them.

[Frumple]

Anything that does fatigue? Or armor piercing/ignoring damage en masse. They're still humans, which means they're squishy if you can get through or bypass the armor, and they're mostly high encumbrance so if you can get your fatigue rolling they start dying easy.

Alternately find something that can tank 'em and get cho SC on.

[George_Chickens]

Fatigue it'll have to be. Thank you! I tried doing a spear/shield wall as Abysia, but my 300ish troops would always get surrounded and slaughtered by the thousands of Ulmdudes.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Anyway, does anyone here have any good strategies for dealing with Ulm? My friends and I have been co-op'ing against the AI (not enough players for a decent free for all), and by the time we get to Ulm, assuming the AI hasn't already destroyed them, they often have armies involving 200+ black plate armour soldiers and close to (occasionally over) 1000 men in their doomstacks. I'm just not sure how to deal with that when our footsoldiers can't compete with them 1v1, neither outnumber them.

Magic. Magic is always the answer, especially against the AI. Look for spells which reduce or bypass their amour completely. Iron Bane is the obvious answer but might not be the best. It makes all iron armour rusty and break after a single attack. The problem is that against 1000 men doomstacks, you could easily run out of troops before they do since Iron Bane affects your own units as well. What nation are you guys playing as? That might help narrow down what spells you can use against them.

Alternatively 1000 men is a massive army and will eat a lot of supplies. I'm not sure if the AI is smart enough to use Bags of Wine and the like to solve supply issues, so luring the doomstack to some low supply provinces to weaken them might work. A bunch of wastelands and the like to wrack up those afflictions and maluses before you strike.

Fatigue it'll have to be. Thank you! I tried doing a spear/shield wall as Abysia, but my 300ish troops would always get surrounded and slaughtered by the thousands of Ulmdudes.

Ah. As Abysia just toss as many fireballs into them and call it a day, maybe throw in some Falling Fires and what not. Something with good AoE that causes fatigue. Heat from Hell is a good battlefield-wide spell to cast but you might not have the research to do so, especially as MA Abysia. Summoning some Fire Elementals might be helpful too, since they're ethereal and help spread the heat around.

Anything that does fatigue? Or armor piercing/ignoring damage en masse. They're still humans, which means they're squishy if you can get through or bypass the armor, and they're mostly high encumbrance so if you can get your fatigue rolling they start dying easy.

MA Ulm's units are surprisingly light on the Encumbrance, actually. Their guys start off at a base of 2 (1 less than normal humans) and Ulmish armour offers a ton of protection for their weight. We're talking 5~6 Encumbrance for the dudes without tower shields and 7~8 for the dudes with. Definitely not lightweight but not ridiculous either. Not!Roman legionaries get around 7 encumbrance for much less protection for comparison.

Mind you, fatigue stacking is still perfectly viable. And definitely a good idea against swarms of enemies controlled by the AI. Just not as super effective against MA Ulm as it used to be, that's all.

[Frumple]

Ah, yeah, abyssia will probably have decent luck with cooking them. Raise up the temp, let em soak those heat differential encumbrance penalties. Add on whatever other fatigue you can and watch as they fall over when basically anything pokes 'em.

Though yeah, magic definitely works. Fireballs everywhere.

[sprinkled chariot]

Well, if you might get your hand on banevenom charms and those undead ghost scouts, there is nothing AI can really do about it.

[Radsoc]

Some communion questions:

If I have a crystal matrix on a mage X, will he be able to establish a communion even if he isn't astral?

Does it matter if slaves are casting their slave spell before or after X? I take it, the battle turn order follows the army list order?

I want to cast a level 5, three gem, spell on turn 1, X is currently level 3. If I have four slaves, I should be able to get to level 5 immediately, and cast it at a cost of three gems, right? If I have two slaves, X will be level 4, and needs 3+1 gems to cast the same spell?

Additionally, the slaves don't have the path of what is cast. Will X still get a level up in that path? How will it affect fatigue? In the battle spell queue, the spell I want to cast is greyed out, it doesn't seem to consider slave spells? What are the benefits of using a slave matrix instead? Less fatigue? Spell will get ungreyed in the battle spell queue?

[George_Chickens]

I'd like to know what the deal with communions is anyway. I'm not a very frequent player.