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Author Topic: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension  (Read 542449 times)

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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1560 on: October 06, 2015, 03:51:03 pm »

Hey guys? Can you give a communion slave crystal to a non-mage and have them work as a communion slave? I.E. would they contribute toward master's path levels or would they just sit there looking silly?
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1561 on: October 06, 2015, 03:53:57 pm »

They'd stand there and look extremely smart. That'd be some exceedingly posh decorative bling they'd be wearing.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1562 on: October 06, 2015, 03:54:30 pm »

The slave-to-be needs to have magic paths, I'm fairly sure holy doesn't count.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1563 on: October 06, 2015, 03:57:00 pm »

Shit...well would they at least get buffs that the masters cast? I.E. if a master casts personal regen would they get it as well?
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1564 on: October 06, 2015, 03:58:37 pm »

They would, but do remember they can't actually do anything in D4 while under the effect of the slave spell so long as masters are still on the field. Reverse communions got mostly nixed.

... not sure if they'd still tank the fatigue or not, though.

Unless the slave effect just flat doesn't work on non-casters, which may have been what EA was intimating.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2015, 04:00:30 pm by Frumple »
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1565 on: October 06, 2015, 04:04:16 pm »

What do you mean they can't do anything? The idea was to have physically powerful commanders act as slaves in the communion to obtain the buffs that the wizards mostly just sit around wasting (Strength of Gaia for example)
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1566 on: October 06, 2015, 04:06:22 pm »

Slaves don't act while there's masters on the field in D4. At all. Don't even defend themselves, iirc. You'd have a physically powerful commander just kinda' sitting there with its finger up its bum unless the masters peaced out somehow. Probably better to just buff the guys with buffs that aren't caster targeted.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1567 on: October 06, 2015, 04:10:28 pm »

What do you mean they can't do anything? The idea was to have physically powerful commanders act as slaves in the communion to obtain the buffs that the wizards mostly just sit around wasting (Strength of Gaia for example)
I see you read the Dom 3 guide on communions :P  Its been nerfed so you can't do all that fanciness anymore.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1568 on: October 07, 2015, 06:31:48 am »

Are vampires awesome?
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1569 on: October 07, 2015, 07:58:42 am »

They come with immortal, flying, life-drain, invulnerability and slash/blunt resistant. So long as they stick to your domain they'll be awesome. However they cost so much in bloodslaves/magetime/boosters that I wouldn't use them outside of your domain. After all they only have 12 HP and thus are somewhat squishy, especially against magic attacks since they ignores their invulnerability. Thus most people use them as counter-raiders/defenders, flying around your dominion and attacking any enemies they find. If they die they'll just pop back up at one of your forts, ready to be thrown into combat once more. The major problem with vampires is that they come at Blood 7, which takes a long time to get in a standard research game. It's possible for the game to end before anybody hits that amount of research, especially if they're developing a blood economy at the same time.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1570 on: October 07, 2015, 11:15:00 am »

What do you mean they can't do anything? The idea was to have physically powerful commanders act as slaves in the communion to obtain the buffs that the wizards mostly just sit around wasting (Strength of Gaia for example)
I see you read the Dom 3 guide on communions :P  Its been nerfed so you can't do all that fanciness anymore.
Actually I just came up with that idea off the top of my head. Also: FUCK.

Wait a minute...SLAVES can't do anything in the communion...so what if I gave the Thug a MASTER Crystal instead?
Idea still workable, if less awesome then originally intended.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 11:17:16 am by BFEL »
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1571 on: October 07, 2015, 11:28:14 am »

He wouldn't gain anything from the communion, unless he's casting spells.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1572 on: October 07, 2015, 11:30:41 am »

WAIT AGAIN. WTF? He would get buffs right? The buffs are the point.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1573 on: October 07, 2015, 11:31:37 am »

The buffs go down the communion ladder only. Never up or laterally.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #1574 on: October 07, 2015, 12:54:59 pm »

The buffs go down the communion ladder only. Never up or laterally.
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