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Author Topic: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension  (Read 542871 times)

Delta Foxtrot

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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #615 on: April 17, 2014, 06:56:07 am »

Is there a military use for The Ark?

Seems like a useful thing for nations with priest-mages and some sacreds. Alternatively it might be a nasty thing to give your flying SC. This is just conjecture but I doubt spammable sacreds are really a requirement. You could just have a secondary army that's full of mostly sacreds and give The Ark to them. Cap-only recruitment could be enough for that sort of thing. Really the important bit here I think is the access to mage-priests. Mages are a big force-multiplier and you don't want to get them diseased and blinded.

Now I wonder if pretenders and shroud wearers are immune to the ark since neither is sacred as such I think.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #616 on: April 17, 2014, 07:07:26 am »

Mind you, obesity still works pretty well

Huh? What? OBJECTION!
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #617 on: April 17, 2014, 09:26:04 am »

No objections allowed :P

It's a fairly huge chunk of HP* in exchange for 3 encumbrance, now that I've noticed the enc isn't scaling. That's actually pretty decent if you've got the means to offset the extra fatigue. It's no quickness or +MR, but it's still one of the better heroic abilities.

*E: Yes, there's a strength boost, too. Strength is almost entirely useless on a SC. Doesn't help them do much of anything they tend to be built for. And most SC chassis have plenty, anyway...
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #618 on: April 17, 2014, 10:45:23 am »

Everyone always talks about Heroic Obesity, but plain ol' Heroic Toughness is certainly worth appreciating, too. It depends a bit on what unit gets it, but if the right one does...

Spoiler: Round 401: Etimmu (click to show/hide)

(That... thing is much worse now, of course, since it's been over 30 turns since that screenshot, but it's a prophet, and has been operating in hostile dominion for quite a while now, so I don't have any more recent shots that really underscore the "ick" factor as well...)
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #619 on: April 17, 2014, 02:13:18 pm »

What's heroic toughness do? I can't tell from that screenshot.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #620 on: April 17, 2014, 02:28:17 pm »

Simple +HP. Less than obesity, and without the strength component, but also without the additional encumbrance.
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Delta Foxtrot

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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #621 on: April 18, 2014, 05:28:29 pm »

The resident guide writer over at Desura wrote a piece on pretender creation just now:
Pretender Design
I thought some here might find it useful.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #622 on: April 19, 2014, 12:59:58 am »

Very useful.

Anybody knows if a list of events exist and their requirements to happen?
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Delta Foxtrot

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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #623 on: April 19, 2014, 01:43:01 am »

There's a downloadable list found here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vu97o3t2mb3d2c2/Dom4events.html
And here's the thread I found the link in the first place:
http://www.moddb.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/event-list

I don't know how accurate it is or where it's originally from, but I glanced through it a few days ago and it seemed pretty legit.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #624 on: April 19, 2014, 02:20:29 am »

IIRC, it dates back to 4.03 - possibly even 4.02. So while it gives you a good idea of a lot of the events in the game, it's not up to date, and ofc doesn't have the new story events.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #625 on: April 21, 2014, 04:51:34 am »

Duhn-duhn-DUHN:

Quote from: Dom4 Change Log
2014-04-20 18:52:54 +0200
Turan units (part placeholder graphics)
Airyan units
Many Ragha Descriptions

Edit: for context Apr 16 2014, 1:23pm:

Quote from: KO
EA Caelum is almost finished.
MA Likewise.
LA needs some more fixing.
A couple of pretenders are made.

Three more pretenders are on the todo-list.
National summons are on the todo-list.
1-3 new nations depending on how much I want to wait with a release. I suspect it is better if I wait until they are finished. Otherwise they are likely not to appear in the near future. If they are included in the patch I have to work to finish them before the patch takes too long.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #626 on: April 21, 2014, 08:25:49 am »

I'll do my best to wait for the next patch quietly then. But improvements to Caelum and a handful of new nations is going to make that hard.

Mind you I have no idea how they're fixing the Caelums. LA Caelum in particular is absolutely terrible (have you seen their Harab Serpahs?), while the other two are better. Hopefully we'll see something like they did for LA Agathra and add in a mage that's actually pretty useful.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #628 on: April 21, 2014, 09:34:56 am »

Sacred archers and new pretenders? I can dig that. Unless the archers were recruit anywhere I probably wouldn't use them though. Their other sacred is the heaviest infantry they can recruit, and their regular archers are almost identical to those sacred ones. But again, the patch isn't out so hopefully their stats will be altered slightly to make them more useful.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #629 on: April 21, 2014, 09:37:37 am »

They're currently not marked as cap-only, so that's great. The game didn't really have that many sacred archers.
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