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Shadowlord

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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #795 on: July 19, 2014, 12:08:08 pm »

So several of my commanders have spontaneously caught diseases, and the Wrath of God spell is active. It says it can inflict wounds, but lightning causing diseases? Can it do that?
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #796 on: July 19, 2014, 12:11:53 pm »

If I remember, disease is one of the afflictions that damage can inflict, like limps and chest wounds. So either you got extremely unlucky and the lightning bolts hit your commanders and inflicted diseases on them, a site/unit is spreading disease around in your provinces, or they got them from old age. Or a combination of the three. Or something else I'm missing. Anyways, best of luck and try not to die.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #797 on: July 19, 2014, 12:12:38 pm »

Probably? I think the wound part just causes random combat afflictions, of which disease is one of. And USEC mentioned the rest, sure.

As for, like, reality lightning causing diseases, sure. Just about anything that can kill flesh can cause necrosis to set in or whathaveyou and make it easier for disease to screw you over. Infections, etc., etc.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #798 on: July 19, 2014, 12:22:44 pm »

That's a good point.

I also captured a province with a site which says it spreads diseases (Inkpot End), but I haven't been able to find any information about it (so I don't know if it only affects that province, or adjacent ones, or what). (The guys catching diseases aren't in that province, but so far they've all been within two provinces of it)
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #799 on: July 19, 2014, 12:29:32 pm »

I believe that disease causing sites can spread diseases even if undiscovered. Does the province have more death/less growth than your baseline? If so there's probably a hidden D site there.
There's also units and items that by their presence cause diseases. If there are any D nations in the game, it's possible that they've sent some sneaking disease spreaders to your lands. If not, it's possible that non-D nations have lucked out and gotten some D mages to get disease units/gear.

To my knowledge disease sites only work in the province they're in, so a nearby D site shouldn't be the cause of this.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #800 on: July 19, 2014, 01:26:52 pm »

I also don't think sites affects more than the province they're in (take the one that hurts undead for example) and diseases probably isn't much different. I'm pretty sure however that undiscovered sites will still cause trouble. Though it seems unlikely that you have another one there. What you can do is check if provinces have unusual scales (like 3 death for instance) when they shouldn't. But I doubt that's the case here.

It seems kind of weird that many commaders would get disease instead of other afflictions from the lightning. If there's many commander and many afflictions to pick from.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #801 on: July 19, 2014, 01:55:49 pm »

Thanks for the help. I'll have to investigate further.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #802 on: July 19, 2014, 02:12:50 pm »

Though, for what it's worth, the RNG is, well, R. It's unlikely that several commanders would get hit with disease from zap-bolts, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. Could very well just be a statistical fluke, such as it is. After all, while there's many commanders and many afflictions to pick from, there's only so many commanders and afflictions to pick from. Repeats are possible, et al.

Or it could be some or all of the other stuff already mentioned, heh.
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« Reply #803 on: July 19, 2014, 02:17:36 pm »

Looking over my troops in 4.04, disease seems like one of the more common combat afflictions, up there with chest wound and battle fright.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #804 on: July 19, 2014, 02:48:03 pm »

Though, for what it's worth, the RNG is, well, R. It's unlikely that several commanders would get hit with disease from zap-bolts, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. Could very well just be a statistical fluke, such as it is. After all, while there's many commanders and many afflictions to pick from, there's only so many commanders and afflictions to pick from. Repeats are possible, et al.

Or it could be some or all of the other stuff already mentioned, heh.
Of course. most of the other things are unlikely as well, but any of them could be the cause. I haven't had my commanders targeted that hard by wrath of god so far. Which makes me think it's unlikely, and that it cause all the disease even more so... Then again I haven't had it active that long in the games I've played so far (which I'm thankful for since it's a pain).
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« Reply #805 on: July 19, 2014, 03:01:19 pm »

No non-throne sites affect more than their home province, and if there's a hostile unit with a BVC or who naturally possesses the Reaper tag, you'll be getting "A very deadly disease is spreading..." messages in that province (unlike the silent-but-deadly sites, which yes, can have their negative effects hit you when undiscovered). It sounds like it's almost certainly a statistical fluke.
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« Reply #806 on: July 19, 2014, 10:25:03 pm »

Gentlemen! Behold!

After far, far, far, too many hours I have created it: a tribute to the new version of Dwarf Fortress:

Oram Dakon, The World of Omens.
19 start positions defined (2 water, 2 cave)
0 thrones defined.
284 land (15 caves), 43 sea.
Wraps in both directions.

You can pick it up HERE, if you're interested.

One of the reasons it took me so long was because I originally made the full map, which was about twice as tall. It ended up at 463 land provinces and 142 sea, and despite all the time I'd put into it, I decided that it was far, far too large to be playable; so I started over with just half of the map.

Any opinions?

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« Reply #807 on: July 19, 2014, 10:50:44 pm »

You should stick with red borders for the ocean provinces, blue is hard to see.
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Re: Dominions 4: Thrones of Ascension
« Reply #808 on: July 22, 2014, 03:49:58 pm »

I'm too dumb to figure out formations for myself and box formations seem inefficient.

Anybody could give me a rundown on how to manage bigger armies?

Edit: Nevermind, I think I found good enough explanations.
Edit 2: But I still haven't a clue.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2014, 08:34:40 am by Mindmaker »
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« Reply #809 on: August 02, 2014, 10:21:34 am »

In the end, I am a producer of things - it's in my nature.

That said, I decided to go with something on a much smaller scale than my last project:

I'm quite pleased with how it turned out (although the North/South map line is a little ugly, unfortunately.) I must have tried a dozen different ways to show terrain, with this basic color swap being the final call.


Catacombs of the Titans
7 start positions defined (1 water, 1 cave)
0 thrones defined.
88 land (8 caves), 27 sea (13 lakes)
Wraps in both directions.

You can pick it up HERE, if you're interested.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 10:23:53 am by AlStar »
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