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[dbay]

Caution: This thread will contain unmarked spoilers. If you don't know what "HFS" stands for, read no further.

Okay, here's my idea, which I just tested to *some* success. If you're unsure whether or not to dig into a tube, before digging, smooth it out and engrave fortifications in it. You'll be able to see through and tell if its hollow before actually digging.

The problem is that if it *is* hollow, you'll trigger the HFS -- its just that the residents won't be able to get to you.
The dwarven road-dar is obviously the better solution, but this one doesn't rely on exploits, for people who are uncomfortable about them.

[CriticallyAshamed]

I would argue that whilst you should be able to see through fortifications, carving a fortification so that you can see into hell without the demons getting to you is sort of an exploit of its own. Also, I'd imagine this would still impact FPS issues right? Since the HFS is still triggered and all.

[evictedSaint]

If I remember correctly, during advanced world gen procedures, you can just forbid the magma sea and bottom layer.

I think that just keeps hfs from existing from the beginning.

If that doesn't work, you could set demon types to 0.

[dbay]

If I remember correctly, during advanced world gen procedures, you can just forbid the magma sea and bottom layer.

I think that just keeps hfs from existing from the beginning.

If that doesn't work, you could set demon types to 0.

Of course. But there's a difference between having demons that you actively avoid, and having no demons at all.

I would argue that whilst you should be able to see through fortifications, carving a fortification so that you can see into hell without the demons getting to you is sort of an exploit of its own. Also, I'd imagine this would still impact FPS issues right? Since the HFS is still triggered and all.

Yeah, frame rate gets hit. That's why the roaddar is the better option. As to whether this is an exploit too... well, the point about exploits is they're sort of user-defined. Some people might be comfortable with one and not the other, and that's fine. I'm just presenting more options.

[wierd]

Some clowns can go through a fortification slit, such as creatures made of vapor, like spirits of mist, IIRC.

Others can shoot their deadly flower lapels through the slit and melt your face off, or introduce the deadly neurotoxin.

Your mileage may vary.

[wierd]

Some clowns can go through a fortification slit, such as creatures made of vapor, like spirits of mist, IIRC.

Others can shoot their deadly flower lapels through the slit and melt your face off, or introduce the deadly neurotoxin.

Your mileage may vary.