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Author Topic: You have $100,000 and want to retire and/or expatriate. What do you do?  (Read 28444 times)

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The lifestyle I'm hoping for is sort of a 2/1/1 plan. 50% of the time spent working, followed by 25% of the time off*, and another 25% spent seriously hitting up internet resources like Coursera. As a single programmer with no one but myself to support, that seems to be quite a possible standard of living.

I probably won't actually retire, as I don't think I would be able to stand the prospect of not having any irons in the fire for long periods of time. After all, I'm a game developer; I build universes for a living. I don't think I'll be willing to give that up for a life of lounging in a chair all day with nothing to do and no prospects for the future.

*Granted, I'm a bit of a workaholic, so that would pretty much just be programming projects and such after the first 3 weeks. :P
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I'm single, childless, and female, and expecting I'll remain so... so honestly, if I could go buy some farmland somewhere green and live there, I might just do that.
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The thing is you need enough money to have options. I could see myself living in a tent on a lonely beach on the mediterranian sea for a year, but not forever. I need a climate where winters are winters and summer isn't too hot. There are many places I would like to travel to, maybe live in a big city for a while, but then I'm most happy living in a quiet village under foresty hills. Essentially I would like to settle down at a place I like (with a decent entertainment-infrastructure nearby), while maintaining enough mobility to go wherever I want.
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A random aside, this thread may be more about the financially smart and financially smart nots, more than just the have and have nots. Most people earn a decent bit of money, if you don't' piss it away on Booze or other non essential things you can quickly amass quite a saving. Those numbers for the average net worth of people in the states have me shocked, honestly. But then again, when everyone wants to have the latest xx and head out every Saturday night, your savings can take a real hit.

100K?
Go to centerlink, live on the doll.

You'll have to burn through 97K of that before they'd give you a cent.
And even if its cash that you hide in the materess, the doll is laughably little money to get by on. Want to live within 150km of a major city? forget it. Want a car? forget it (but you'll need one sine the only place you will be able to afford will not be near any public transport)
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Would giving up a car and living on a couple hundred dollars a month in a tropical island paradise be worth not having to spend an extra 30-40 years of your life working? I can see some people thinking that yeah...that would be a pretty good deal.

Take the minimum amount that you need to spend in a year.  Multiply that by 25.  That's the minimum amount you need to retire at a young age and not go broke within a couple decades.  This number does not count large single ticket items such as housing, medical emergencies, college, etc.

So if you consider that 100k after spending 60k on housing (good find by the way.  I would totally go for that place if I was retiring to hawaii.)  That leaves $40k in investments or $1,600/yr to spend.  That's around $4 a day.

$4 a day in disposable income, food and clothing isn't all that bad.  But what about health insurance?  What about utilities (you want water, electricity and internet presumably).  What about health insurance?  Medicaid is better then nothing but even a minor illness can be very expensive when you are on medicaid and have to meet deductables and copays.  It's true that a lot of expenses can be avoided if you opt out of consumer spending habits.  But a lot of other expenses can't be avoided unless you turn your back on civilization.  Oh and there is the $333/yr that you'd be paying in property taxes on that house on Hawaii island.

I think you'd have better luck if you take a step back, turn things around and talk about how much you need per month rather then how much you need in the bank.  Tally up everything you need on a monthly basis because most of our bills work that way.  Include everything you really want, e.g. electricity, healthcare, classes at community college to keep from getting bored.  Include rental costs or add housing costs onto your final figure.  Multiply by 300 (12 months and that 25 figure).  That's the amount you need at minimum for your youthful retirement.

So suppose 350 for housing and utilities (assuming you are living rural), 150 for high deductable insurance for a young person, no car, 300 a month for food, clothing, etc. 50 for hobbies like community college classes and another 50 a month as a cushion for a total of 800/month.  To live this lifestyle on your savings you'd need $240k saved up although that might be low.  The idea makes a lot more sense however if you are married/long term relationshipping.  In that case you are going to be paying a lot less per person.  Housing the same, utilities only a little more, insurance around 220, food, clothes and the like maybe 450 and maybe 150 for hobbies and cushion.  Call it $1020/month which requires a bit more then 300k saved up.  So on a per-capita basis the cost shoots waaaay down.
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A lot of what defines the use your money will have is tied to the activity you plan to pursue afterwards.

If your goal is to become a subsistence farmer in a low tax area, $100,000 is enough to set you with a piece of land and enough livestock to start a decent farm.

If you plan to retire to play video games and surf the net all day, $100,000 won't last more than a year or two.

Honestly, about $2,000,000 is enough to have a fairly decent lifestyle if you're living from your investments in a first world country. $100,000 is enough to buy a good portion of the cost of a property close to wherever it is you plan to work until you've saved the two million, not much more.
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The thing about expat sites is, the more westerners you tell, the worst the place becomes. Heh.
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I'd buy a small rural house or a Porsche 911.
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you have no particular emotional attachment to staying in the US.


Good, would've been kind of strange, considering I've never been there.
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Eh? Well then, didn't expect that (replying to above poster's latter statement.). Take the money, invest it and prepare for the future, personally.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2013, 10:38:48 am by Novel Scoops »
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The thing about expat sites is, the more westerners you tell, the worst the place becomes. Heh.

With some experience, who does this usually consist of, and why?
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i would buy myself two elephants, male and female, and live my life as a nomad in the forests of Ontario cut off from the world, making my dream of having a Canada that is populated by elephants come true.
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Defect to North Korea and live like a king.
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Based on NK's GDP, I'd estimate you'd need ~$15 billion USD to buy the country out.

To live there like a king, you must kick out the current king.
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Defect to North Korea and live like a king.
if you live there the government would take your 100k and put it towards "Food efforts"*



*military expenditure.
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