Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[majikero]

Can't really complain about DLC money grabbing when I get everything for less than the base game. Steam is awesome like that.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Metro: Last Light, "Ranger Mode".
Ranger mode made Metro 2033 so much better it's insane. The devs even came out and said that Ranger Mode is the best experience for Last Light. 
I don't know if it was a publisher or developer idea but it's one of the most insulting DLC practices I've seen.

Oh and every single on-disc DLC. Such a dick move. I'm looking at you Saints Row the Third.

[OREOSOME]

In my opinion, I think the New XCOM: Enemy Unknown's Customization dlc thing. I did the math, and on Xbox, the dlc costs about 1/8th of what the game would cost if you were to buy it using Microsoft points.

[Neonivek]

Gods and Kings. The DLC that would have made Civ 5 a much better game, if it had been included in the real game. Or, oh, I don't know, given to people for free? Like Valve did with Peer Review, Portal 2's multiplayer DLC.

God's and King's is a full fledged expansion pack. Not DLC. I mean, you CAN download it, but it expands the game instead of just adding minor content.

If it is an expansion pack that you download (DLC)... then it counts since you cannot buy it in stores to my knowledge.

Though I will say that saying Gods and Kings is a terrible expansion does have ground and it shows where the Crusader Kings 2 team is the laziest.

Instead of going all out and trying to create entirely new gameplay material, they go the lazy route because they don't want to change the main bulk of the game even if it doesn't make sense.

All the Crusader King 2 expansions (except Republics I guess) is the same content with the slightest alterations. While its other DLC are just the team nickel and diming.

If I could return Crusader Kings 2 I would. But I cannot so I am stuck with it.

[Biowraith]

I don't typically pay a lot of attention to what DLC is out there - it's frequently nothing that interests me much, at least not at the prices they charge.

The ones that interest me the least tend to be the ones that add a new zone or quest chain - while on paper I'm interested in more content and that seems the most worthwhile thing to be spending money on in a game, in practice they either get released so early on as to be a blatant cashgrab and should have just been part of the core game, or they get released so late on that I'm done with the game and don't really feel like firing it back up just to go explore that one short  quest or area.

I think the one that's irked me the most though are the characters for Borderlands 2.  I mean, £8 for a new character?  I could maybe understand if the characters in that game were really deep and complex, with each choice opening up a load of playstyle options and different ways to build your character - and clearly took a lot of resources to plan and balance.  But really, the classes in that game are all play pretty similarly, the talent trees are pretty simplistic, and no way is any one of them worth 25% of the cost of a brand new AAA title.

[Teneb]

Gods and Kings. The DLC that would have made Civ 5 a much better game, if it had been included in the real game. Or, oh, I don't know, given to people for free? Like Valve did with Peer Review, Portal 2's multiplayer DLC.

God's and King's is a full fledged expansion pack. Not DLC. I mean, you CAN download it, but it expands the game instead of just adding minor content.

If it is an expansion pack that you download (DLC)... then it counts since you cannot buy it in stores to my knowledge.

Though I will say that saying Gods and Kings is a terrible expansion does have ground and it shows where the Crusader Kings 2 team is the laziest.

Instead of going all out and trying to create entirely new gameplay material, they go the lazy route because they don't want to change the main bulk of the game even if it doesn't make sense.

All the Crusader King 2 expansions (except Republics I guess) is the same content with the slightest alterations. While its other DLC are just the team nickel and diming.

If I could return Crusader Kings 2 I would. But I cannot so I am stuck with it.

First: Gods & Kings is for Civilization V, not CK2.

Second: Most game-altering content for CK2 is released for free. Yes, free. All in the patches that are released together with the expansion. When The Old Gods was released most of the stuff added by it was added for free. All you need TOG is for playing pagans, looting and using the new start date. And even if you don't buy it, computer-controlled characters will still be able to use TOG stuff so your game still has it in a way.

[PrimusRibbus]

The ones that interest me the least tend to be the ones that add a new zone or quest chain - while on paper I'm interested in more content and that seems the most worthwhile thing to be spending money on in a game, in practice they either get released so early on as to be a blatant cashgrab and should have just been part of the core game, or they get released so late on that I'm done with the game and don't really feel like firing it back up just to go explore that one short  quest or area.

I agree with this one a LOT. A 45 minute sidequest is either an on-disc cashgrab, or way too little too late.

It's even worse in multiplayer games where you generally won't be able to play any of the new quests because invariably half your group won't have the DLC. The Halo series' DLC mappacks were a great example of this: 3-5 high quality maps released at a time, with only 10-20 people playing them even on day 1 of release. Why? Because no one wanted to form special groups to play the DLC.

[Krevsin]

Metro: Last Light, "Ranger Mode".
Ranger mode made Metro 2033 so much better it's insane. The devs even came out and said that Ranger Mode is the best experience for Last Light. 
I don't know if it was a publisher or developer idea but it's one of the most insulting DLC practices I've seen.

Oh and every single on-disc DLC. Such a dick move. I'm looking at you Saints Row the Third.

According to Deep Silver, it was THQ who planned a separate release of the Ranger Mode, with the developer havingno say in it.

I call bollocks on that and think that Deep Silver just needed a scapegoat.


also, I am really bothered by the day 1 free DLC for Rome 2 total war (a couple of factions). If it is day one, and free, why don't you add it to the basic game? would it take too much  disk space? Why bother making a DLC, on the first day, for free if it would be much more convenient to just stick it into the game?

[Neonivek]

Most game-altering content for CK2 is released for free. Yes, free

You are perfectly right. The most game altering content for CK2 is released for free with the intent of multiplayer use and tempting the player to buy it. You don't get to USE any of it.

So yeah you are right, but wrong in the most fundamental way.

Also yeah I mixed them up badly... Old Gods, Gods and Kings... Opps.

[lastverb]

Maybe not a DLC, but as alredy someone mentioned guns for planetside, I'll say premium tanks for World of Tanks - a single one costs 50$ and you really need one if you ever want to buy highest tier "free" tanks.

[Neonivek]

Maybe not a DLC, but as alredy someone mentioned guns for planetside, I'll say premium tanks for World of Tanks - a single one costs 50$ and you really need one if you ever want to buy highest tier "free" tanks.

Honestly DLC and buying in game content are sort of the same thing.

Well sort of... they are the same "Microtransactions".

[Digital Hellhound]

Most game-altering content for CK2 is released for free. Yes, free

You are perfectly right. The most game altering content for CK2 is released for free with the intent of multiplayer use and tempting the player to buy it. You don't get to USE any of it.

So yeah you are right, but wrong in the most fundamental way.

I honestly can't grasp your logic at all. The free patches only add to your gameplay, even if you can't access all of the new features. You couldn't play muslims before, you can't play them after the patch... I'm not sure what's changed. Certainly nothing's changed for the worse. Would you seriously prefer being locked out of playing multi with people who have the DLC?

[Neonivek]

I honestly can't grasp your logic at all. The free patches only add to your gameplay, even if you can't access all of the new features. You couldn't play muslims before, you can't play them after the patch... I'm not sure what's changed. Certainly nothing's changed for the worse. Would you seriously prefer being locked out of playing multi with people who have the DLC?

The free patches are there for two things
1) To make sure everyone can play with everyone else
and
2) Nagging

Now ignoring the second... the point I was trying to make is to say the "DLC is free" is to entirely misrepresent it. It isn't free, it is just already in your game but locked from you.

[Vendayn]

Metro: Last Light, "Ranger Mode".
Ranger mode made Metro 2033 so much better it's insane. The devs even came out and said that Ranger Mode is the best experience for Last Light. 
I don't know if it was a publisher or developer idea but it's one of the most insulting DLC practices I've seen.

Oh and every single on-disc DLC. Such a dick move. I'm looking at you Saints Row the Third.

stuff


also, I am really bothered by the day 1 free DLC for Rome 2 total war (a couple of factions). If it is day one, and free, why don't you add it to the basic game? would it take too much  disk space? Why bother making a DLC, on the first day, for free if it would be much more convenient to just stick it into the game?

This is actually why I have no interest at all in Rome 2 Total War. A bit more interested if they allow modding, but Empire Total War and newer never allow modding. So, I'll stick probably with my favorite Rome Total War and Medieval 2 Total War mods.

But yeah, I lolled so hard when they announced the day 1 DLC months before the game is even released.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

I thought this would be a topic about Leisure Suit Larry DLC. Or something. Can't explain the gutter that is my mind.