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[Darkmere]

Genuine less-snide question: Would you look at people who 100% jRPG's the same way?

And I know you guys weren't talking about me, I'm just being a shit. No actual flame intended.

If you don't want to enjoy videogames, you simply need to stop playing them. You should come play forum games with us, instead, because videogames are dumb.

I've considered it, tried to run a TSG once. It failed because I'm bad at forum games.

[hector13]

It's difficult to describe what it is I mean. Buying games (any genre) just to get the achievements is bad juju, since I think it defeats the purpose of playing games: for enjoyment.

I mean I've bought games just for the achievements (WatchDogs and Shadow Of Arkham Mordor, specifically) and I was just left feeling really dirty and stupid afterward, but that could've just been 'cause those games aren't particularly good, and I bought them when they came out, so expensive.

I hate feeling like I've wasted my money on a game, which could be why I prefer strategy games and RPGs.

[itisnotlogical]

These last few posts are the first time I've ever even considered the possibility of buying games just for achievements. Is that a thing that happens often, in general? A lot of the games that I own don't even have achievements on Steam.

[hector13]

I think I'm just being an elitist snob.

"buying games just to get a little sticker that says you beat it!? Back in my day you had to leave the machine on to prove to your friends you beat it!"

[Neonivek]

This game has serious concequences, except it doesn't!

I am getting tired of games pushing that every choice has a consequences to try to fill your head with ideas. Yet in the end it really doesn't matter ESPECIALLY for the ending ESPECIALLY when it counts.

Life if Strange is a HUGE one. A lot of faux choices disguised as important ones.

Now I am not going to criticize "Until Dawn" because that is more a flawed concept then a deceptive one.

[TheBiggerFish]

Genuine less-snide question: Would you look at people who 100% jRPG's the same way?

And I know you guys weren't talking about me, I'm just being a shit. No actual flame intended.

If you don't want to enjoy videogames, you simply need to stop playing them. You should come play forum games with us, instead, because videogames are dumb.

I've considered it, tried to run a TSG once. It failed because I'm bad at forum games.

But you should PLAY games.  You don't need to RUN them.

[Cyroth]

These last few posts are the first time I've ever even considered the possibility of buying games just for achievements. Is that a thing that happens often, in general? A lot of the games that I own don't even have achievements on Steam.

More common then it should be on a reasonable world.
I know several guys whose entire games collection on PS3/XBOX consisted of games that are "easy platinums" (or whatever the XBOX live equalivent is called), so they could show off how much plat they've "earned". That they "earned" by reading a guide about a game that has 7 trophies.

I also know one guy who only buys games on Steam if they are easy to get 100% on, because he doesn't want his oh-so-great achievement showcase to drop under 90%. He even wrote a very angry email to Valve once because he bought a game, finished it and a few months later he received the upgraded re-release for free (which had some new and rather hard achivements, so it damaged his precious stats).
Yes, you read that right. He threw a major fit because Valve gave him a present.

[Shadowlord]

I think I've only 100%ed all the achievements for one game, Skyrim on the 360 (PC version was unplayable at the time; I borrowed the console version), and of course it's not 100% anymore because Bethesda released DLC and added new achievements for it. So...

I could be wrong about that being the only one. I usually don't care about collecting all the achievements.

[Darkmere]

NV is so far the only game I've 100%'d on. I couldn't last in Skyrim because it gets so bland with the zero weapon variance, broken useless mechanics, and some parts of the plot being asinine (Ulfric is a moron. I sided with the Stormcloaks once and can't make myself do it again).

I was also never able to strike a good balance with XP mods to make the game progression feel right to me. Shame, I really did like it for the first few playthroughs...

[A Thing]

(Ulfric is a moron. I sided with the Stormcloaks once and can't make myself do it again).

That reminds me of this sorta related screenshot I took. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=542155053 I mean do you need more proof of Ulfric's complete incompetence?

[Lossmar]

Awesome, deep and rich features/mechanics that ultimately contributes to NOTHING.

Example ? Galactic Civilizations 3 ship designer... Tactical combat in this game is a simple coin toss/random number god act, so why the hell would i bother with making my own ships ? And on top of that - i get flooded with example designs everytime i upgrade my techs so why bother ?? If that game would feature fully interactive tactical combat with 3d movement, positioning, weapon fire arcs etc then fuck me i would spend more time in the ship designer than in the actual game.

Abstractions and lack of micromanagment in strategy games.
Gal Civ 3 again but MoO 2 also comes to mind ( and couple others ) - ships that can see everything in the entire Solar systems ( MoO2), refinery taking the same amount of resources as the single small ship ( Gal Civ 3), auto ammo replenishment ( Star Ruler 2) etc etc etc ..

Suffice to say - Distant Worlds and Aurora 4x are the only space 4x i play.

[miauw62]

PROCEDURAL GENERATION A MILLION BILLION ZILLION QUINTILLION GOOGOLIION UNIQUE DISTINCT NEVER SEEN BEFORE WORLDS

games advertising procedural generation and an insane amount of "unique" worlds, and everybody buying into it despite the fact that all the worlds almost always end up feeling incredibly samey. Starbound is a good example of this, No Man's Sky will probably be the same and people will be disappointed.

df has this too but it's not so bad in df because it's more or less designed for players to tell their own stories, and a fort ends up making its own stories that give the player a starting point to explore the stories of the world. (i think?)

[Calidovi]

PROCEDURAL GENERATION A MILLION BILLION ZILLION QUINTILLION GOOGOLIION UNIQUE DISTINCT NEVER SEEN BEFORE WORLDS

games advertising procedural generation and an insane amount of "unique" worlds, and everybody buying into it despite the fact that all the worlds almost always end up feeling incredibly samey. Starbound is a good example of this, No Man's Sky will probably be the same and people will be disappointed.

df has this too but it's not so bad in df because it's more or less designed for players to tell their own stories, and a fort ends up making its own stories that give the player a starting point to explore the stories of the world. (i think?)

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[Neonivek]

Slow motion but fast moving

A simple one. Anytime a game animates a creature/vehicle/person as moving slowly... but in reality they are speeding across the battlefield by moving multiple squares.

It is tedious to watch AND hurts my logic centers.

[Quartz_Mace]

Overall damage that has no effect until death
In many games, even if you only have 1/100 HP you can still function perfectly normally unless that 1 HP is lost, killing you. Why? If a soldier has been shot all to hell, why hasn't his accuracy or speed decreased? nuCOM somewhat suffered from this (soldiers were more likely to panic, but their stats never decreased unless you enabled a second wave option called "red fog", but in order to do that you need to first beat the game, if I remember correctly which is another peeve. In first person shooters, generally the most debilitating issue you face from low health is a faded/bloody screen. That's really immersion-breaking for me. If I'm taking a hailstorm of bullets, I very much doubt I can still accurately fire my rifle.