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« Reply #1785 on: March 05, 2015, 08:26:46 am »

Oh, and to the Bioware Discussion froma  few pages ago.

It's not just morrigan and sten whining at a good character. This is the case with basically any party where the character does not align with the two sidekicks you take along. Alistair whined at me the entire time troughout the game if I deviated even SLIGHTLY from the goody two-shoes path.

I like most Bioware games and Dragon Age Origins / Mass Effect 3 are still two of my favorite games ever. But I was sorely dissapointed in how hamhanded that whole "Paragon / Renegade"-shtick was. On paper, you could actually design a pretty nifty system, where it isnt allways clear what is the right or wrong thing to do. Paragon might be the guy that will try to save everyone everywhere, regardless if it might cost victory or not. Renegade the guy who's prepared to sacrifice a few thousand people, as long as Reaper ass get's kicked. There is a lot you could do with this, with both Shepards basically being the good guys, albeit with different approaches.

Instead, it's the tired "Satan vs Jesus"-Cliche, only slightly more competently handled than the Fable series.

On the subject of Fable, has anyone played Fable 3? Fable has been my guilty pleasure for years. The whole alignment stuff was gimmicky and poorly handed from the start. But the story was sort of interesting and it was one of the few games where I could play a total dick for once.

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« Reply #1786 on: March 05, 2015, 03:41:44 pm »

Spoiler: yet more jRPG rambling (click to show/hide)
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« Reply #1787 on: March 05, 2015, 04:21:56 pm »

@VirtZ: I can still see every point you make applying to basically any form of entertainment media...

It's a problem in a certain sense of the word, but it's also a problem that exists for a reason.

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« Reply #1788 on: March 05, 2015, 04:51:04 pm »

@VirtZ: I can still see every point you make applying to basically any form of entertainment media...

It's a problem in a certain sense of the word, but it's also a problem that exists for a reason.
Not to the extent I see it in jRPGs... and Bioware games.
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« Reply #1789 on: March 05, 2015, 06:03:06 pm »

Being Out Qualitied in a Card Game

I just hate the power creep where you know you are losing not because the opponent is good but because they spent the money to afford the cheap super cards that are just flat out better then your cards.

MAN!!! did this hit Hearthstone hard. Since now the basic decks lack the power creep of Goblins and Gnomes, along with the extra elite cards, and all the additions since then.

"I summon the card that is two mana cheaper but is twice as good as your card! Ha Ha Ha"

It doesn't matter if it is fair or not... nothing sours a match more then that.

La di la no rush to win

Wow, you sure have a lot of cards in your hand compared that you play nothing...

Can you just make winning moves already... Your just stalling to watch me die slowly... it really isn't fun.
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« Reply #1790 on: March 05, 2015, 06:27:40 pm »

I got hit with this pretty hard last night. One opponent had something like 10 legendaries in their deck. One of them had "Deathrattle: Summon another Legendary minion". That's just bullshit. I would barely manage to clear one set of minions (at one point, three legendaries were on the board at the same time), and then the opponent would drop a few more. I feel like I built my deck reasonably well so that barring unlucky draws I'd always have a few options, but there's just nothing you can do when your opponent has a deck built out of nothing but bullshit legendary minions.
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« Reply #1791 on: March 05, 2015, 07:52:02 pm »

Not that I've played Hearthstone, but this is why I always liked (real life) sealed-deck tournaments.  Yeah you have to buy some cards, but...  You keep the cards, and everyone's on an even playing field.

Though lunch-room Magic with house rules was fun too, but only because the people were only *insincerely* assholes.

If I wanted to play a Magic-like card game nowadays I'd just reinstall the old Magic The Gathering game by Microprose.  It has a large overworld with wandering monsters, dungeons, and towns.  You have to build up your deck and eventually take down the 5 corrupted guardians to defeat some planeswalker or something.  It's exactly what I want from a Magic video game.  Haven't tried the much more recent one on steam, where you buy cards and have to deal with other players.
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« Reply #1792 on: March 10, 2015, 12:12:57 am »

I don't like the fact that there seem to be fewer (or a smaller percentage, at any rate) new turn-based strategy and tactics games coming out these days
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« Reply #1793 on: March 10, 2015, 03:01:58 am »

I don't like the fact that there seem to be fewer (or a smaller percentage, at any rate) new turn-based strategy and tactics games coming out these days
I dunno, I've seen like 2 XCOM clones since that came out, and 2 Banner Saga-likes kickstarted (one of them even has an alpha demo out, I've heard).
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« Reply #1794 on: March 10, 2015, 03:47:07 am »

Oooo, I've got a peeve. When an evil/different side in a game is the same missions as the main route just given by a different NPC.

"Your now working undercover for us bad guys. Go and work for those you were working for before because they don't suspect you. Report back after something major has happened and we'll backstab you into the main plot again".

Particularly "Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark",  "Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines (Tremere, Brujah), Dragon Age: Origins (Possessed child). Possibly a few others I can't remember.
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« Reply #1795 on: March 10, 2015, 04:14:08 am »

The Brujah don't backstab you, as far as I can recall...
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« Reply #1796 on: March 10, 2015, 04:34:07 am »

Maybe I'm misremembering details. I do remember the true Camarilla (what I meant by Tremere, sorry) being pretty much just working for Lacroix with little difference to the actual missions.
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« Reply #1797 on: March 10, 2015, 04:37:39 am »

Yeah, that's the Tremere.

The people who back stab you are:

The Asian Vampires IN THE ENDING (they back stab you, you die, bad end.)
The Ventrue (LaCroix, basically) leading up to the ending. Pretty sure you can finish off on his side, though.
The Brujah think YOU back stabbed them. It works out, though.
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« Reply #1798 on: March 10, 2015, 04:40:35 am »

Spoilers, maybe? :P
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« Reply #1799 on: March 10, 2015, 04:53:44 am »

The games like a million years old. Besides, they're very basic spoilers. No real details (and I'm probably missing stuff anyway.)
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