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[Parsely]

Those minigames that are now everywhere. Lockpicking minigames, hacking minigames, whatever. I don't understand why they exist. Who is the guy who feel like he needs to add some match-four minigames in his game? Does anyone find hacking terminals in Fallout 3-4 fun? Was there some kind of review of original Fallout or Deus Ex or something that say "Yes, the game is really great, but it could use some sh**ty f**g minigames in it to be perfect"

This.

[Sirbug]

Lockpicking is at least quick and works on reflex. Fallout hacking is just a minute of staring into a puzzle I solved 100 times already straining my brain in the most boring possible way.

[A Thing]

I mean all I'm asking is for more interesting settings, like Dark Sun or Geneforge or even Planescape Torment.

While this is a bit old I just want to mention that I'm glad that to see someone mention Geneforge.

The problem that hacking in Fallout 3\NV\4 have is that you can just back out without any penalty so I just mash through it. Which at that point you might as well make it automatic. The lockpicking was okay, but was still mostly busywork.

[Graknorke]

Those minigames that are now everywhere. Lockpicking minigames, hacking minigames, whatever. I don't understand why they exist. Who is the guy who feel like he needs to add some match-four minigames in his game? Does anyone find hacking terminals in Fallout 3-4 fun? Was there some kind of review of original Fallout or Deus Ex or something that say "Yes, the game is really great, but it could use some sh**ty f**g minigames in it to be perfect"

I heard some people say that about Deus Ex actually, yes.

[Shadowlord]

I don't remember any minigames in Deus Ex.

[Parsely]

I don't remember any minigames in Deus Ex.

In Human Revolution there is a hacking minigame.

[SeriousConcentrate]

I've never played a good lockpicking minigame, but I would say Assassin's Creed 3 has the most tedious of them all. I prefer the 'hold the button until a bar fills up' kind some stealth games (Styx comes to mind) use. It's only a little annoying when the coast is clear and tense when it isn't.

[Sergius]

Lockpicking is at least quick and works on reflex. Fallout hacking is just a minute of staring into a puzzle I solved 100 times already straining my brain in the most boring possible way.

I used to do actually do the stupid puzzle thing, but nowadays "hacking" in Fallout 4, I do like this: activate computer, pick the first 4 codewords (because I have the Detective guy's perk, but 3 works too), if that doesn't open, I spend 3-4 more seconds trying to find a Reset bracket or whatever. Otherwise, cancel and retry.

So pretty pointless, ugh. I think I'm just going to install some easier/instant hacking/lockpicking mod. It's not like I don't have a million bobby pins already.

At least in the first Mass Effect, I had so much Omnigel from the junk I found that if I didn't just use it to skip the minigames it was going to waste constantly.

[Parsely]

At least there's a mod that lets you blow up doors that you don't like instead of hacking or picking them open.

[Persus13]

I found the lockpick/hacking minigames in Fallout to be fun, but the hacking minigame does get a little old after a while.

On the other hand, the most annoying minigame I know is probably the hacking minigame from Bioshock, which wouldn't be stressful at all except they decided to put a timer on it for some reason, and I'm pretty sure you lose health from a failed hack.

[Catmeat]

Ugh easiest ever, fallout boston hacking was easiest game I had ever done, I could see through it easier that guys at a bar. Click one word, oh the 2nd letter E is correct. Its obviously this one, i was correct on the second guess 70% of the time, luck 4. They suck at minigames. A fun example would be your P.C mashing the keys with their power armor and the whatever opening. What a waste of gaming that was. Also the terminal interface options for your base traps and light crap was shit, tg for mods

[Damiac]

The fallout lockpicking game is... okish I guess.  At least, it's better than the oblivion lockpicking mini game.  Still, in a world of infinite bobby pins, it's really just a case of having a certain skill/perk level, then a little busywork.

The hacking game doesn't even have the excuse of a pretend limited resource.  If you have the skill level/perk level to attempt the hack, you WILL succeed, sooner or later. 

To make matters worse, in fallout 4 some of the screens are those weird round ones, and on the PC version at least, the cursor doesn't match up with the words! It's like the cursor is active as if the screen is rectangular, but it's drawn as if it's on a round screen, so things don't quite line up.  On top of that, trying to read from that horrible round screen gives me a headache.  So I generally just click the top 3 and retry over and over again now.  It's about as fast as trying to 'solve' them legitimately anyway.

I really don't like mini games when there's absolutely no gameplay point to them.  Strangely enough, I kinda liked the hacking game in Deux Ex, because it did actually kind of mean something. (Although I think you could still cancel out of it to avoid any negative consequences...)

[Sirbug]

I found the lockpick/hacking minigames in Fallout to be fun, but the hacking minigame does get a little old after a while.

On the other hand, the most annoying minigame I know is probably the hacking minigame from Bioshock, which wouldn't be stressful at all except they decided to put a timer on it for some reason, and I'm pretty sure you lose health from a failed hack.

Most annoying I encountered is hacking in Alpha Protocol. Not only it's a lousy eye-straining experience, the control is also terrible.

[hector13]

I found the lockpick/hacking minigames in Fallout to be fun, but the hacking minigame does get a little old after a while.

On the other hand, the most annoying minigame I know is probably the hacking minigame from Bioshock, which wouldn't be stressful at all except they decided to put a timer on it for some reason, and I'm pretty sure you lose health from a failed hack.

Most annoying I encountered is hacking in Alpha Protocol. Not only it's a lousy eye-straining experience, the control is also terrible.

They're also hard as balls on higher difficulties, but I'd consider that a pro rather than a con.

[Sirbug]

I don't know how hard they are on hard, but they are very clumsy. They have block moved by mouse that isn't even glued to cursor. How do you screw up this much?