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[hector13]

Cutscene death

This is mainly for support characters who you protect for some of the game, and get instant game overs when they die in-game, but they die in a cutscene anyway.

Most annoying one of which was Silent Hill 2, I believe, in which you're being chased through corridors with this woman, who dies often. Yet at the end of the set-piece, she dies in a cutscene.

[Parsely]

^^I don't remember any escort missions in Silent Hill 2.. Except for that tiny portion where you have to walk around with Maria, I think? I could be mistaken, that might have been in The Room.

..it was literally a game about gunning down hordes of brown people for money.  And the game was aware of this, and Max repeatedly explains it to the player throughout the game.

Thats the thing though, Brazil isn't exactly "full of brown people". Whoever has actualy been to Brazil knows that you can literally find pretty much every ethnicity depending on what region you visit, from afro-descendants and arabs to many different kind of europeans and even asians (Brazil has one of the largest, if not the largest population of japanese and japanese descendants that live outside of japan).

I know that the OP's post wasn't exactly about the cartoonish ways games depict foreign countries, but the belief that south america is homogenously populated by brown people is an annoying american-based pseudo-fact that games like CoD and media based off comic books (like max payne) like to run with.

His complaint was about games where you exclusively hunt down foreigners, except there were white Brazilian enemies in that game. Maybe you also forgot about that entire level you spend killing hordes of stereotypical white criminals in "Joisey". Apparently New Jersey is populated exclusively by white gangsters who are easily offended and all have that shitty nasally accent as well! >_> The plot revolves around underworld violence and depravity and everyone in the story is a scumbag, including the white people. Rockstar doesn't discriminate, they insult everyone equally. :l

Max Payne isn't based off a comic book. The comic book-style cutscenes are a result of a storytelling decision by the developers in the original game-

For cutscenes, the developers found comic panels (with voice-overs) to be more effective and less costly to use in the than fully animated cinematics

-and that carried over to the sequels.

[Rolan7]

Once again I necro-reply as I consume a thread...

Missions where you "almost rescued your friend."
Max Payne 3 and, to a lesser extent, Borderlands 2. When your failure to rescue someone repeatedly is the excuse for 3 levels of gameplay, I want to kick the story writer in their testicles.

It's actually possible to rescue that person in time in Borderlands 2. It's difficult, but I remember doing it on my first run through. So that one is actually an example of a proper branching mission with a penalty for failure. I'll probably go back to this thread later and actually make a post that's more on topic.

Anyone know what rescuee is being discussed here?  I'm pretty familiar with BL2 but I don't know what quest this would be.

Try GTA2 on for size. You can only save at churches, which from a 2D top-down perspective look a lot like any other building. You have no map, and the city is probably full-size judging by the size of the player character. Every part of the city looks exactly the same, except for the parts with gangs that are trying to kill you. And you have to pay to save.

My brother and I loved that game so much, and hated how hard it was to save.  Eventually we happened across a crazy trick...  You know those TV vans with the neat swiveling satellite dishes on top?  They point directly at the church!
Good luck ever figuring that out!  And now that you know, good luck finding a TV van!  I think a physical set of maps came in the box, which kinda makes this a type of copy protection.

[EnigmaticHat]

Quote from: EnigmaticHat on February 03, 2014, 12:39:53 am

I stopped talking about this because it was killing the thread.  I think it did kill the thread for like 7 months.  People who have opinions have formed them.

Edit: NO ME, DONE ARGUING

[itisnotlogical]

LIVE THREAD, LIIIIIIIIIIVE

Games where the saves are somehow tied to the specific installation of the game are a bit annoying. Many games have been abandoned because I had to switch computers and couldn't manually transplant the saves, either because I couldn't find them or missed something when copying the files.

[Neonivek]

Lack of Cheats

Honestly where have the cheats gone?  Sure I understand that with the advent of achievements cheats are sort of "cheating" but honestly is there no way to include... say... a temporary character unlock cheat?

[TamerVirus]

Lack of Cheats

Honestly where have the cheats gone?  Sure I understand that with the advent of achievements cheats are sort of "cheating" but honestly is there no way to include... say... a temporary character unlock cheat?

It's called DLC.

It's sad

[Jacob/Lee]

Completely Mute Protagonists
Who makes no sounds excepts grunts? I mean, if you can voice-act the rest of the characters, you could at least give the protagonist a few lines.
(Mostly aimed at first-person games with set protagonists.)

Been playing Borderlands, the pre-sequel, and they /don't/ do this! I love it.

There's four characters to chose from, and they all spout one-liners and talk say stuff in general where appropriate.

I like Max Payne's monologues. He doesn't actually say anything in play aside from the monologues, but he does talk in the "cutscenes." I would be totally fine if every video game character ever just monologued instead of actually talking to people for exposition.

[Shadowlord]

I generally don't care to use cheats, so I don't notice their absence and think it's just peachy when a company decides to put all the cheats in a DLC. Saint's Row 3's tended to be things like being immune to bullets, having infinite ammo, etc. Mostly just stuff that made the game more boring if you turned it on (and then oops, they neglected to include a way to turn it off since they were put in the game as upgrades you could buy for your character with in-game points that you got from playing, the same as all other upgrades, if you had the DLC that added them to the game).

I also tend to consider the pre-order bonuses that give you extra items to be cheats too, for that matter.

The one exception would be when a game glitches out and I need a cheat to fix it, for example, playing through VTM:Bloodlines I got stuck and couldn't move, and needed to turn on noclip to get free; It also happened in one of the Mass Effects on 360, and there was no noclip cheat because 360, but saving and reloading freed me IIRC. Or for testing things, I suppose. There's a testing mod for Dominions 4 which is basically cheats so you can wish for things and test spells and army configurations and stuff easily.

The only rescue I remember in BL2 is Mordecai's bird, which was impossible to succeed at because of the railroad plot. Of course, I never finished the game because I got tired of wading through the thousands of enemies. Felt like I was playing an MMO, except without all the other players running around...

[pisskop]

I hate those who will min-max.  I do it myself as a fad, sometimes, but you take to fun out of it when you border that cheaty line.

Exceptions include for challenge, because the game is no longer fun at the lower level, and to experiment.  Basically whenever Im not feeling competitive, I frown upon competition

[itisnotlogical]

I only use cheats if I'm irritated with a particular quirk of the game. For example, Operation Flashpoint only lets you save once per mission. Most missions are rather long and very difficult, meaning that savescumming is sometimes the only way to beat a mission without tearing your hair out. Thankfully, there's a handy cheat that lets you save infinitely wherever you are.

That, or in Quake-based games where cheating basically allows you to do anything. In Jedi Academy you could spawn any NPC, including a dummy of yourself, and stage massive battles. There were even some "vehicles" that may have worked, but mostly crashed the game because they were just cutscene dummies or scripted things that the player wasn't meant to use.

[Neonivek]

Ohhh here is one

Ugly 3d remakes and Ugly Enhanced 2d remakes

Just because your engine uses more processing power doesn't mean what you created LOOKS better. If you are going to use different graphics to represent the game then please PLEASE match the original in quality OR package the original along with your game.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Ugly 3d remakes and Ugly Enhanced 2d remakes

Just because your engine uses more processing power doesn't mean what you created LOOKS better. If you are going to use different graphics to represent the game then please PLEASE match the original in quality OR package the original along with your game.

Reminds me of the 3D re-release of Cave Story. Who thought that was a good idea? There's also the current Stronghold Crusader II that is failing to meet the expectations of a twelve year old game.

I'm also amazed just how much attention this topic has gotten. Guess people need a healthy vent every now and again.

[Parsely]

I love finding out that other people are annoyed by the same things I am!

[itisnotlogical]

It's almost like a TVTropes of things people don't like in videogames.