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crossmr

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Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« on: June 09, 2013, 08:35:56 am »

A couple of times now, I've found my battlefield with some random bolts on it..but not after a battle. I clean-up after every battle. Just now a werebear showed up. The hammerers held him off until a swords dwarf stabbed him in the brain with his sword.
When it centered on him, I noticed that near him there were several dead birds and tons of bolts. I checked the combat log, and only one bird was recent enough to have text.. showing him killed with a bolt..but the combat log didn't show who fired it, or show anyone else fighting at that time. If a marksdwarf had wandered up there, he'd be listed as having had combat. Even if it aged out. Just 4 combat logs for birds in amongst sparring with no other combat logs..
I've seen this before. But, i have no hunters.
I really wonder who is going out and shooting up the random animals..
invisible ghost archer?
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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 11:35:55 am »

try doing a search for the lovebirds in gamelog.txt
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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 07:38:59 pm »

try doing a search for the lovebirds in gamelog.txt

All I get is this:
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The flying ({bismuth bronze bolt}) strikes The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird in the right upper leg, chipping the bone!
A tendon has been torn!
The ({bismuth bronze bolt}) has lodged firmly in the wound!
The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird falls over.
The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird gives in to pain.
The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird slams into an obstacle!
The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird's right upper leg takes the full force of the impact, bruising the muscle!
The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird's lower body takes the full force of the impact, bruising the fat!
There is nothing before it..no indication of who shot it, before it are just tons of entries about sparring..

ah-ha.. I did find him in combat with a macedwarf..though I have no idea why a macedwarf would be anywhere near where the lovebirds were
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The Macedwarf bashes The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird in the head with her ({steel mace}), bruising the muscle, jamming the skull through the brain and tearing the brain!
However, that doesn't explain the bolts..
in fact. there are more bolts, but no entry for who shot them.

It just looks like this:

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The Macedwarf misses The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird!
The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird grabs The Macedwarf by the right upper leg with his right wing!
The militia captain stabs The Swordmaster in the right hand with his adamantine short sword, lightly tapping the target!
The flying ({bismuth bronze bolt}) strikes The Giant Peach-faced Lovebird in the lower body, tearing the muscle and tearing the guts!

what's stranger is that I don't have anyone in my fort who is a macedwarf.. I have no soldiers training that, and no one has any natural skill in it..It's not even time for the dwarven caravan.

my marksdwarves were definitely not anywhere near there. But there seem to be these bolts appearing out of nowhere..
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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 11:28:55 pm »

The logs never say who shoots a bolt, so the gamelog won't be particularly helpful. When looking at the in-game combat report of whoever shot the bolts, it would still only say 'The {bolt} strikes the [target]!' without mentioning the shooter's name.

If you have no macedwarfs in your fort, that was probably a caravan guard - the ({steel mace}) suggests as much: '()' means the item is of foreign make and '{}' indicates the item is 'forbidden' to you, which is the norm when looking at the possessions of creatures that are no members of your fort. It's possible that the crossbowdwarf who shot the lovebirds was also a caravan escort.
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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 03:34:15 am »

Right, but there is no combat listing in the R menu for any caravan guards fighting at that time. Do they not generate one? I seem to recall that when goblins fought a minotaur, they generated combat entries that I could read in game.
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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 10:46:24 am »

caravans can bring marksdwarfs as guards.    Also the bolts were of foreign make.  Its extremely likely that a caravan guard was shooting the lovebirds while they were engaged with the other caravan guards.  The only other explanation would require you to have somehow imported bismuth bronze bolts (trading or via dead caravan or from embark) and had a marksdwarf in the area at the time.
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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 07:57:23 am »

caravans can bring marksdwarfs as guards.    Also the bolts were of foreign make.  Its extremely likely that a caravan guard was shooting the lovebirds while they were engaged with the other caravan guards.  The only other explanation would require you to have somehow imported bismuth bronze bolts (trading or via dead caravan or from embark) and had a marksdwarf in the area at the time.

yes, but I also have a protected entrance for my caravans. They don't come that way to get in. and yes i've imported bismuth bronze bolts. I've imported every bolt that has showed up on all the caravans, so I've got quite a variety.
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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 11:38:47 am »

It could have been a rookie migrant hunter that came to your fort already carrying bolts and a crossbow. Untrained or badly-trained hunters tend to miss. A lot.

Since the combat log doesn't show when a bolt misses the target completely, that's my guess. The rookie hunter was trying to take potshots at a bird or something and couldn't hit it to save his life.
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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 02:46:56 pm »

Anything shot into an animal that sticks shows up in it's inventory, and drops upon death. Maybe they'd been plugged full of bolts by caravans and just ignored them, until a macedwarf bashed it's brains out?
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The *large serrated steel disk* strikes the Raven in the head, tearing apart the muscle, shattering the skull, and tearing apart the brain!
A tendon in the skull has been torn!
The Raven has been knocked unconcious!

Elves do it in trees. Humans do it in wooden structures. Dwarves? Dwarves do it underground. With magma.

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Re: Who is shooting my lovebirds?
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 06:48:11 pm »

Anything shot into an animal that sticks shows up in it's inventory, and drops upon death. Maybe they'd been plugged full of bolts by caravans and just ignored them, until a macedwarf bashed it's brains out?

No there were combat logs for the bolts, they just weren't assigned to anyone. and the macedwarf doesn't appear there either. It is clear they fought one, but for some reason, he wasn't listed in the logs at all. and no migrants, Its been years since I've had any.

The caravan shouldn't be going that way, as they have a shorter enclosed map exit, and there are no hunters, and my marksdwarves have no reason to go out of the fort where they were found. It's really weird.
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