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Re: Fallout 4 (early discussion, predictions and things you want to see)
« Reply #105 on: June 08, 2013, 01:47:56 pm »

The windfall for Ireland is that absolutely no-one could see the point of trying to take it over/nuke it and we are very neutral. We didn't do anything during WWII. I don't think we'd change our tune in the face of WWIII...

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« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2013, 02:00:23 pm »

I very much doubt Ireland getting directly targeted by nuclear warheads but the chance of either a miss or environmental impact from missiles targeted against the UK seems quite plausible.

Ireland remaining neutral during WW2 considers a whole range of varying influences and cultures. While I don't personally agree with the decision to not join WWII in 1939 I can understand the Irish delay after WWI with the lack of any real legitimacy granted by the United Kingdom.
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Re: Fallout 4 (early discussion, predictions and things you want to see)
« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2013, 02:16:58 pm »

Fallout: Atomic Eiré.

Fight mutated minks! Explore the whole of Ireland as it is quite small! Play drinking games with random survivors at the pub! Music includes the Rubber Bandits and RíRá.

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« Reply #108 on: June 08, 2013, 03:37:27 pm »

Fallout: Atomic Eiré.

Fight mutated minks! Explore the whole of Ireland as it is quite small! Play drinking games with random survivors at the pub! Music includes the Rubber Bandits and RíRá.
Hold on Fallout is a american game so we need to use stereotypes.

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Re: Fallout 4 (early discussion, predictions and things you want to see)
« Reply #109 on: June 08, 2013, 03:37:47 pm »

I think one further North, in and around Maine and Masschushetts or something would be cool. Less people, still suffering from the destruction of the world, and a Mass. area that would be the "D.C." or New Vegas of the area. I dunno.
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« Reply #110 on: June 08, 2013, 03:41:44 pm »

I just don't want it to be inanely stupid and hollow. But it's Beth. I'd appreciate a return to the actual setting; the West. You can start in the Northwest, the paradise that's left, for once. Better to go from paradise to see the desolate and evil radiated wastelands of Baja, but I dunno.
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Re: Fallout 4 (early discussion, predictions and things you want to see)
« Reply #111 on: June 08, 2013, 03:44:44 pm »

Personally I consider the saving grace the fact that Bethesda didn't put their setting in the west.  Considering how they ruined every bit of lore they imported from the left coast I'd like them to stay on the east.  If they do the commonwealth and make them as high tech and ammoral as the robot quest indicated then they will have basically replicated the BoS and stumbled back onto the fallout feeling by accident.  But maybe I'm just doing wishful thinking.
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Re: Fallout 4 (early discussion, predictions and things you want to see)
« Reply #112 on: June 08, 2013, 03:46:20 pm »

True. But then again, nothing they would do would stop the diehards from being disappointed, so may as well try to actually make it faithful as opposed to whatever the hell FO3 was supposed to be.
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« Reply #113 on: June 08, 2013, 03:50:09 pm »

I wonder if they're going to include the NCR if they do anything near the Core Region. I mean, I can get why Bethesda would be biased toward the knight-like BoS, but I'm not sure how'd they'd handle an actual democracy.

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« Reply #114 on: June 08, 2013, 04:22:56 pm »

Mainly posting to watch, but one thing I would like to point out is that in F:NV, that giant guy in super armor impervous to automatic grenade launchers talks about how they have taken over the eastern half of the U.S.
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Re: Fallout 4 (early discussion, predictions and things you want to see)
« Reply #115 on: June 08, 2013, 04:41:04 pm »

I must agree that Fallout New Vegas was a good game, and I generally find the engines to be okay. It's just that Bethesda has a tendency to write main stories that only fit in within a very cliched "good and evil" system that works sometimes in a medieval fantasy setting, but doesn't fit with the general moral ambiguity of a post-apocalyptic world. No, the Enclave are not the good guys, but the Brotherhood aren't either. I did like how the Brotherhood actually split between the "Good guys" and the "Outcasts", the latter of which actually fitted the isolationist, techophilic philosophy the Brotherhood originally had, but they didn't really end up doing much at all.

Personally I think a lot of Beth's missteps with the BoS lore could've been avoided if they had changed the roles of the BoS and the Outcasts. Having a small, equipment-starved splinter who actually wants to do good defend the Pentagon from both supermutants and the regular BoS would have allowed them to have their goody-two-shoes knights in shining armour without depriving the BoS of their asshole-ness.

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« Reply #116 on: June 08, 2013, 04:46:07 pm »

Personally I think a lot of Beth's missteps with the BoS lore could've been avoided if they had changed the roles of the BoS and the Outcasts. Having a small, equipment-starved splinter who actually wants to do good defend the Pentagon from both supermutants and the regular BoS would have allowed them to have their goody-two-shoes knights in shining armour without depriving the BoS of their asshole-ness.

See, it's simple changes like that [which I'm sure the entirety of Beth's ideas crew passed over] which would have made things less.. Bass ackwards. Also: Would have been much more atmospheric.

I thought the entire horseshit with the Iron Giant robot was just too much and I didn't even want to slog through the rest of the experience.

The thing is, I don't hate the idea of a company making FO in their own image, long as it isn't a railroaded lore-less experience with black and white morality. I was an absolute bastard in Fallout, out of necessity. Tell me Junktown isn't a gray time.

I love the idea of a modern day Fallout 1&2 reboot. I admit; they haven't aged as well as I want, but they are still.. I don't know, full[?] experiences.
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« Reply #117 on: June 08, 2013, 05:09:06 pm »

Personally, if I were to make a Fallout set in the modern day, I'd make it turn-based and isometric, just with better graphics and a few tinkers with gameplay. Something that could be run on Kickstarter. Hell, with Fallout graphics, you could probably do a lot with it. I did have this one idea for a Fallout game where the wasteland is randomly generated every time you play.

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« Reply #118 on: June 09, 2013, 02:06:01 am »

Well, if we leave US, anywhere on Balkans would be interesting
Fallout: Sarajevo.

That just sounds freaking cool. I could also check out how true to life the worldmap would be, due to my relative closeness to the city.  :P
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Survarium is the spiritual successor to STALKER and is looking mighty fine right now.
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« Reply #119 on: June 09, 2013, 02:14:10 am »

Survarium is the spiritual successor to STALKER and is looking mighty fine right now.
That's fine and dandy, but that isn't going to change the fact that I desperately want STALKER 2. The wound hasn't had a chance to heal yet, and I remember the whole fiasco where people thought Bethesda was buying the rights to STALKER.
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