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[SpiralDimentia]

Do dwarves commit suicide after only being 'slightly' unhappy? My current fort is against a volcano, and everything is going fine. I'm at 43 dwarves, a metal indistry thriving, no hunger or thirst.. a couple of my dwarves are bummed out, but only because I forgot to actually make some beds and one of my miners valantly sacrificed himself to help get my forges ready. Magma moves faster than I thought it did. Anyways, everything seemed to be going fine, I punched a hole above my magma chamber for dumping unwanted garbage and goblins, then i received another migrant wave. As I was going through and assigning them jobs, a ''has been missing for a week.'' notice showed up. At first I figured a vampire, but when I checked the log I noticed that right before that, a hauler has ''bled to death.''

Now, there were no combat logs, so there was no fighting. No corpses. No bodies in beds, no drained of all blood, so no vampire. I noticed some smoke coming from my dumping hole, but thought nothing of it at the time. Thinking back on it now, I think my dwarves may have jumped in. But... is that something they DO?

[ORCACommander]

dwarves have been known to commit suicide. i think your hauler here made an error and just threw himself in by mistake.

[hiroshi42]

How high up is the opening of the dumping hole from the magma/lava.  Dumping heavy objects now creates magma mist which will deep fry your dwarves.

[vanatteveldt]

Yeah, I had a dump zone about 3z levels above the caldera, which worked fine for a while, until I designated some stones for dumping...

[laularukyrumo]

Magma and temperature in general are weird. Dwarves have been known to burn to death spontaneously months after exposure to heat. Also, "bleeding to death" without combat logs typically suggests death by fire. So it's probably volcano related.

[slothen]

bleeding to death is often an indicator of death by heat.  Instead of brain-death from overheating, the dwarf begins melting, and doesn't die until sufficient blood is lost.  A dwarf won't commit suicide by bleeding to death unless the dwarf has survived a suicidal fall and then bleeds.

A sane dwarf will not commit suicide.

[Tirion]

Isn't there a bug that nothing dies from heat when thrown in the magma sea, but gets erased from existence when hitting the semi-molten rock floor?

[SpiralDimentia]

It might have been the mist, as the hole is on te very top level of the magma chamber. I hadn't even considered that there could be splashback. Well that's irritating. Would just one more level up suffice? I guess I could surround it in walls and ramps or something.. or floor over it and move it elsewhere.

[slothen]

you can put a hatch/grate over the hole.  If its closed, dwarves will drop items onto the hatch as normal.  Then use a lever to retract it when no one's standing there.

[ORCACommander]

It might have been the mist, as the hole is on te very top level of the magma chamber. I hadn't even considered that there could be splashback. Well that's irritating. Would just one more level up suffice? I guess I could surround it in walls and ramps or something.. or floor over it and move it elsewhere.

mist height is directly proportional to mass and velocity of the object throne in. for most things in df 3 or 4 z levels clearance will suffice

[Raphite1]

Yeah, sounds like magma mist. I lost my first fort of the new version when I mass-designated a room of stones for dumping, and suddenly all the haulers caught on fire, and one managed to run outside and ignite an inferno that immolated everyone drinking from the river.

[PotatoLord]

you can put a hatch/grate over the hole.  If its closed, dwarves will drop items onto the hatch as normal.  Then use a lever to retract it when no one's standing there.

If the hallway leading up to the dumping zone is narrow, you could automate this process with a pressure plate.

[Aquathug]

A sane dwarf will not commit suicide.

I vote for putting this in the bugtracker.