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[Witty]

So, I've played DF for about a year or so, and I consider myself pretty competent in terms of understanding the game mechanics. However, I have, for the life of me, never managed to initiate the Baron upgrade. My industries are pretty diverse, and my total wealth is usually pretty high. I've built roads, candy trade depots, and attracted the monarch numerous times, but I can never seem to get that baron. The wiki has turned up pretty vague and unsatisfactory answers, so I'm hoping someone here will have an idea of what exactly I'm doing wrong. Thanks in advance.

[Sirbug]

Are you exporting enough goods?

And does outpost liaison actually chat with your mayor?

[Raphite1]

And does outpost liaison actually chat with your mayor?

Yeah, my first thought was that you've been accidently skipping the dialogue, or giving the wrong response.

[Garath]

I think it was 80 population, was it 80? Then the liaison tells you you can become an independent province or something, no wealth or much else required afaik and you get to select a baron. Further advancement (duke etc) is made through population and wealth

are you using any mods?

[Witty]

Thanks for the quick replies!

Are you exporting enough goods?

And does outpost liaison actually chat with your mayor?

I've met the export and population(80) requirements numerous times, at least those listed on the wiki.

And yes, the liaison has talked to the mayor, successfully arranging the trade agreement and then leaving. 

[Raphite1]

And yes, the liaison has talked to the mayor, successfully arranging the trade agreement and then leaving.

The dialogue for becoming a barony is different from the trade agreement dialogue. I can't remember exactly what the liason says, but he asks whether you want to appoint one of your dwarves as baron.

[Ozarck]

I have been watching my baron (who is also my mayor, for some reason) successfully snub the liaison officer for a while today. It's awkward, because the liaison has just offered her the position of Count, so she should be thrilled. Talking with the liaison seems to be the lowest possible priority on this lady's list, below, giving food, cleaning, eat and drink (naturally), and staring vacantly at frozen water buffalo dung.

That said, if you have chatted with the liaison with the requirements met, even trading and all, then maybe it's a glitch. Did you try the wiki's suggestion of keeping the mayor and the liaison apart until the caravan leaves?

   

 Have a caravan leave when your population is 20
    Exported 10k wealth
    Created (Imported?) 100k wealth

If a player meets the above requirements and still can't promote anyone, this may be due to a glitch. This affects some games and requires that the trade caravan depart before meeting with the liaison in order to get the barony option. Try keeping your mayor and liaison separate until after the caravan has left the map.

[Nobu]

Remove their other labors and duties; they'd invariably rather haul stones across the map than actually talk to any visiting diplomats.  It's not necessarily the lowest job on their list, but they'll interrupt it for all kinds of reasons, and they need to talk for a little while to actually complete the job.  I think it's better to take the other labors off as soon as the diplomat appears on the map, because you may lose time while your representative eats and sleeps.

I think waiting until after the caravan leaves is only important if they also serve the broker role, but once you have enough dwarfs to have a baron you can probably spare someone else for brokering.

[Sirbug]

I also understand that liaison comes year after you reach requirements. Probably idea is he bring back report on your fortress and your bosses think "Gosh, it's time to promote them"

[Larix]

Once you reach the requirements, the liaison will make the offer every year until you accept it. If you refuse, they will not negotiate a trade agreement.

The population requirement pretty much fulfils itself, because it's indeed a whopping twenty dwarfs. On the wealth/export requirement, i don't know how exactly they work. It may be that export only checks for the exports to the _dwarven_ civ. I'm pretty certain that only actual exports count, not gifts to the civilisation.

One strange thing i observed is that expedition leaders will occasionally start and hold a meeting with a liaison while other jobs are available to them. Landed nobles, however, treat meetings as idle time, i.e. absolutely any 'job' available to them anywhere in the fortress will cause them to instantly rush out of the meeting and do whatever pointless thing they're allowed to do, the further from their throneroom the better. I regularly lock my nobles in their office with the liaison. I'd probably end up with multi-year diplomat pileups otherwise.

[Maw]

Do you have a sheriff/cpt of the guard?  You need this position filled as well (see the wiki for details).

This was the reason I didn't get a baron for a while.  Accidentally appointed the position just before my mayor met with the liaison, and suddenly got the offer.

[Starweaver396]

As above: Need Justice.

Also, someone mentioned not giving gifts; I was under the impression that you had to give 1000 urists as gift before the first tier of nobility was offered, and 1000 more for each upgrade. Could be wrong though, I'm still trying to keep interest in a fortress long enough to get the offer.

[Witty]

Do you have a sheriff/cpt of the guard?  You need this position filled as well (see the wiki for details).

Wow really? I never bothered with the justice system. Thank you so much! Hopefully my current fort will soon have some proper nobility.

[slothen]

As above: Need Justice.

Also, someone mentioned not giving gifts; I was under the impression that you had to give 1000 urists as gift before the first tier of nobility was offered, and 1000 more for each upgrade. Could be wrong though, I'm still trying to keep interest in a fortress long enough to get the offer.

This is not necessary.  Exporting a small amount of wealth (I think like 5000), will get you the king/queen +consort very quickly.  So I never do this before I'm ready.

[Uggh]

Do you have a sheriff/cpt of the guard?  You need this position filled as well (see the wiki for details).

Are you sure or can somebody else confirm? I'm quite sure that I already had a duke before appointing a cpt. of the guard or sheriff.