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[Deepblade]

Do what now? You can't ass to mod it? What person ever claimed that DF is bug free?

[Man of Paper]

Let's stop this hating on DF and Toady's coding before it gets out of hand. It's understandable to be a little miffed about a bug like this in Dwarf Fortress. But it's a game, not life support. And it's not actually game-breaking, considering you can change a couple values and deal with the worst half of the problem (dwarf size). In all honesty this is just another inconvenience that DF figured out how to work past while Toady figures out how to fix it. Like always, ye of little faith.

Yes, I want this fixed as soon as possible, but I won't let one of the many, many bugs I've seen in DF ruin the experience for me. Nor will I let it fester into the apparent dislike of Toady's M.O. when it comes to coding his brainchild.

On the other hand, perhaps it was intentional and meant to nerf wrestling some more :p

[Tacomagic]

Let's stop this hating on DF and Toady's coding before it gets out of hand. It's understandable to be a little miffed about a bug like this in Dwarf Fortress. But it's a game, not life support. And it's not actually game-breaking, considering you can change a couple values and deal with the worst half of the problem (dwarf size). In all honesty this is just another inconvenience that DF figured out how to work past while Toady figures out how to fix it. Like always, ye of little faith.

Yes, I want this fixed as soon as possible, but I won't let one of the many, many bugs I've seen in DF ruin the experience for me. Nor will I let it fester into the apparent dislike of Toady's M.O. when it comes to coding his brainchild.

On the other hand, perhaps it was intentional and meant to nerf wrestling some more :p

MY GODS!  HE'S USING REASON!  EVERYONE PANIC!

[VerdantSF]

Go into the raws and change the baby and child size to adult size.

Great suggestion!  I'm going to do the same for my war animals so the next generation can actually put up a fight.

[Vgray]

Has anyone actually tested how this affects domestic birds?

[kingubu]

So, I'm still hatching eggs.

There is some growth taking place.  Peafowl and geese give some bones right at birth, chickens and turkeys do not.  But if you, say, forget about the birds for a while and then get back to them because your combat logs are filling up with cat vs bird fights because somehow a cat got locked in your bird room, well then, slaughtering two year old birds is the same.  Except turkeys now give bones.  Easily more than the others.

At some point the turkeys got larger.  Still not full size, maybe 20-30% give bones. 

If I wasn't so lazy, I'd make a graph or something with a lua script. 

Edit: Weird, someone was asking about birds as I typed this.

Has anyone actually tested how this affects domestic birds?

Edit Edit: Yeah, I've hatched about 5000 birds in the last few weeks. 
tl;dr version is raise peafowl or geese and slaughter them immediately for best returns.

[Vgray]

Huh. So not even Turkeys ever give meat?

[kingubu]

No, if they give bones they give meat.  You just have to wait for turkeys to grow.  Peafowl and geese can be slaughtered as soon as they hatch.

Turkeys do give 2 meat, 2 fat, a skull, and a skin at birth a percentage of the time.  I'm just focused on bone carving so I mostly just track bone returns.

[Kurik Amudnil]

If you are using the unit-info-viewer I made, you would be able to check their size at birth (which is often much larger than expected) and compare it to when they are a year or two old.  Bones should be provided when the unit is at size 283 or more.  I doubt that those birds really grew but were born large to begin with.  If they did truly grow, I would like to see some seasonal saves where something grew so that I can try to figure out why.

In the meantime, I am trying to figure out how to calculate the other related sizes and have deciphered a bunch of info on many of the unknowns in the body_plan structure which I am planning on posting to the dfhack thread latter.

[ZzarkLinux]

Ajusting the Infant/Child sizes seems like a good workaround.
I forsee that dwarven mothers will move a LOT slower since they have to haul all that extra weight.
Which I guess is actually more realistic than drafting all the moms into the military and birthing while in a sparring session.

[Deepblade]

Ajusting the Infant/Child sizes seems like a good workaround.
I forsee that dwarven mothers will move a LOT slower since they have to haul all that extra weight.
Which I guess is actually more realistic than drafting all the moms into the military and birthing while in a sparring session making baby smoothies in the danger room.

I fixed it for ya 

[k33n]

Hmm. Can I keep the baby size the same but make the child grow to adult size?

[Deepblade]

I believe they'd be stuck at baby size if they started/came to the fort as babies.

[Thormgrim]

so, um can somebody please post the mechanics of how to actually edit the raws for a work-around on this?
Has somebody built a script or exe that will just run through all the raws and fix them for other animals?

can we sticky either/both to the beginning of the thread?

[ZzarkLinux]

so, um can somebody please post the mechanics of how to actually edit the raws for a work-around on this?

I believe that's what the DFHack people and the Modding sub-forum community are working on it right now. I think that they will place the fixes into the DFHack tool or the Lazy Newb Pack whenever they're ready.

I plan to start testing this issue, once I'm done testing the fix for vampire alcohol dependency.