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WillowLuman

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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2160 on: June 10, 2014, 05:48:13 pm »

What we absolutely should not do is treat this like an interrogation. Trying to wheedle information out of him, after he explicitly denied an obligation to honesty, will lead to us slipping up.

...Make the questions interesting enough as yes/no that he doesn't feel the need to extrapolate to make them interesting?
I think this would be the best approach, but we'll have to see how he responds to the first round.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2161 on: June 11, 2014, 12:09:29 am »

The Weasel Way to Win:

On the difficult side, it might be hard to come up with questions in which the proper answer is, quote, "Yes or no". (As opposed to "yes" or "no", see?)

On the easy side, since he's not obligated to answer any of our questions properly, unless he cuts out his tongue he 'can' answer any of our questions with "yes or no". Even if he chooses not to, he totally could have, so they'd count. (For example: Sheogarath answering "What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?" with "Yes or no" is a possibility, so that question would count as asking one in which he can answer that way.)

Given the latter, perhaps just asking him questions in which we're interested in the answer Sheogarath will give, regardless of its truthfulness is the best strategy. Asking him questions interesting enough that he'd consider giving us a proper answer would be key.

The Non-Weasel Way to Win:

Of course, for those not interested in that kind of rules-lawyering, who want to treat this merely as a game in which we win if we ask Sheogarath five consecutive yes/no questions three times:

-Note each round is five questions. Asking him two non-binary questions, then five consecutive binary questions, then three non-binary seems like it either results in two rounds won for Sheogarath (in that round one only had three binary questions and round two had two binary questions) or one round for Sheogarath and one for Michael. (in that round one ended without Michael finishing a string of five binary questions, but he automatically wins in the middle of round two because Sheogarath never said you could only win a round at the end.)

-Note we can tie with Sheogarath by winning two of the four rounds. If we do, neither player wins. No castling for Sheo, no 'satisfaction for a job well done' for us. We may actually want to actively try to tie, if we assume 'satisfaction' is somehow related to 'resting in peace'.

-Note that we aren't limited to yes/no questions - we just need to ask enough to win/tie, probably in the right grouping. That means we can safely ask him five or ten (depending on the desired outcome) non-yes/no questions if we're curious about the answers he might give.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2162 on: June 11, 2014, 12:20:14 am »

Imma just throw questions out there.

Is Dagoth Ur insane?
Am I insane?
Is Jyggalag any fun?
Are you willing to answer this question with yes or no?
Are any of my voices trying to hurt me?
Is Vivec mad?
Is Dagoth Ur more insane than Almalexia?
Can a mudcrab mate with a Dreugh?

I'm trying to keep my questions to things that Sheogorath will either find interesting or pertinent, y'see.

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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2163 on: June 11, 2014, 01:01:06 am »

The Weasel Way to Win:
Note that he says that if he can, he will. So we're probably not going to get any complex answers out of him that also win us the game.

Also he's the Daedric Prince of Madness. Rules lawyering him is unlikely to end productively, unless you count producing a shoe made out of bananas.

The Non-Weasel Way to Win:
Note that with winning mid-round, that would also imply that we'd lose any time we asked a non-binary question after some binary questions, since that'd count as a series of not five yes or no questions.

Good point on the freebie questions, but I get the feeling we're not going to do well enough to be able to use them like that.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2164 on: June 11, 2014, 02:25:38 am »

I like
Do the questions we have already asked count?
as a first question.

Something else to remember, as a Daedric Lord, his perception on things and ours is probably different. So even if he does give an honest answer, we might not be able to interpret it 'truthfully'.
Maybe ask him if he can hear YOUR voices.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2165 on: June 11, 2014, 02:35:44 am »

Sheo, if you can hear us, let me just say that I really appreciate your work in making the world a more interesting place. Keep up the good work. As a token of my gratitude I send you the mental image of Garey Busey.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2166 on: June 11, 2014, 10:00:06 am »

Lemme help you out there.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2167 on: June 11, 2014, 05:32:53 pm »

Lemme help you out there.

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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2168 on: June 11, 2014, 07:52:50 pm »

Questions to ask I suppose...

1.)Do you find this funny?

2.) Does the word... "Everscamp" mean anything to you?


Now. As to something to help Michael.

PRAY. Pick any Daedra that isn't Sheogorath and pray that they help you.


Nevermind. Pray to Sheogorath to help you defeat Sheogorath.
It might work.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2169 on: June 11, 2014, 07:57:29 pm »

Why?
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2170 on: June 11, 2014, 08:29:44 pm »

Likely because the other Daedra aren't as insane?  I mean, they are likely just as deadly to us, but coherence is nice. Not as much fun as Sheogorath though.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2171 on: June 11, 2014, 09:01:03 pm »

I'm just not sure it's wise to pray to one of the other lords right in front of him.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2172 on: June 11, 2014, 10:08:38 pm »

Praying to Sheogorath to help us beat Sheogorath might be just crazy enough to work.  And that is the best possible use of that phrase.

+1 to HugoLuman's suggestions.  Also, ask Sheo if there's any way for you to hide your thoughts from him, so that you can pray in private, then pray for him to help you win the game with creative inspiration or something.  Do not phrase the prayer as a question.

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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2173 on: June 11, 2014, 10:12:26 pm »

The obvious danger is that a prayer is not a yes or no question.
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.63
« Reply #2174 on: June 12, 2014, 02:39:38 am »

The obvious danger is that a prayer is not a yes or no question.

It is if you phrase it correctly:
"Dear god, will you please help me?"
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