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[joemoben]

I say it's time to start Mantling... a blades agent. To do so we must suddenly act and talk completely differently.

"In event of full-scale Sixth House attacks, I become an active agent. I am now cleared to provide information on the forces we are dealing with, as the scale of this threat is now beyond clandestine means."

This... could work. If they buy it, this would also allow us to leave afterwards, as our sleeper mission is fulfilled.

No way that would work. These people saw us get taken down by an orc, with little fight from our end. They have also seen us struggle greatly with basic training.  I would like to vote towards the story about us reading about these. We should also on the stilt strider ride inform the Champion of the Ascended Sleepers combat abilities, but dumb it down a tad. Inform them of the fact that they can paralyze, cast fire, ice and shock spells. They can tire the troops, and infect them with diseases. And there is always the chance that the guy will simply not take our advice as we are simply grunts. If so, inform Strillian and try to get him to spread the word. Make sure to mention the fact that we used to be scholars.

[birdy51]

Inform the highest authorities in the Legion of what we know about the ascended sleepers.

Also.

Don't abandon your squad.

We have to stand beside our fellow soldiers. It would be dishonorable to abandon them now. Stand and fight like a true man.

...We might get some experience!

[CognitiveDissonance]

We have already established ourselves as "learned". Talk to the Champion, tell him we have heard about this creature in our studies, and share basic info on what they are. This may save our life.

I'll just go back to my original suggestion.

[WillowLuman]

The why doesn't matter right now, since they'll believe us when we face the thing. We need to lay out exactly what we're going to say. To get them to believe us, for example, we start with a physical description. All we've heard is "a slug in a robe." We say "Highly decorated robe, grey skin, face a mass of tentacles and holes," and when they see we were right, they'll know we know what we're talking about.

Sorry about the all-bold post before.

[CognitiveDissonance]

The why doesn't matter right now, since they'll believe us when we face the thing. We need to lay out exactly what we're going to say. To get them to believe us, for example, we start with a physical description. All we've heard is "a slug in a robe." We say "Highly decorated robe, grey skin, face a mass of tentacles and holes," and when they see we were right, they'll know we know what we're talking about.

Sorry about the all-bold post before.

I think the information before - background info, types of spells they use, and how to fight them. As outlined in those two posts:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

At the very least, one of us should look up everything we can on Ascended Sleepers, and post that information for us to share with our squad. If our squad leader is the highest ranking member we can inform, so be it - at the very least, inform them. If we will fight him, let us fight him with a plan that might lead to victory.

Spells Known by ascended sleeper:
25-75 pts melee
Dagoth's Bosom - Drain Fatigue 20 pts for 30s on Target
Fire Storm - Fire Damage 1-10 pts in 10ft for 10s on Target
Frost Storm - Frost Damage 1-10 pts in 10ft for 10s on Target
Paralysis - Paralyze for 5s on Touch
Shockball - Shock Damage 2-40 pts in 10ft on Target
Ash-chancre blight disease - Drain Personality 20-40 pts
Ash-Woe Blight blight disease - Drain Intelligence & Willpower 20-40 pts
Black-Heart Blight blight disease - Drain Strength & Endurance 20-40 pts
Chanthrax Blight blight disease - Drain Agility & Speed 20-40 pts

Basic Info
Level   25
Health   300
Magicka   300
Fatigue   400
Soul   400
Spells/Abilities   (See below)
Combat Skills   80
Magic Skills   80
Stealth Skills   20
Damage   25 - 75

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I say it's time to start Mantling... a blades agent. To do so we must suddenly act and talk completely differently.

"In event of full-scale Sixth House attacks, I become an active agent. I am now cleared to provide information on the forces we are dealing with, as the scale of this threat is now beyond clandestine means."

This... could work. If they buy it, this would also allow us to leave afterwards, as our sleeper mission is fulfilled.

No way that would work. These people saw us get taken down by an orc, with little fight from our end. They have also seen us struggle greatly with basic training.  I would like to vote towards the story about us reading about these. We should also on the stilt strider ride inform the Champion of the Ascended Sleepers combat abilities, but dumb it down a tad. Inform them of the fact that they can paralyze, cast fire, ice and shock spells. They can tire the troops, and infect them with diseases. And there is always the chance that the guy will simply not take our advice as we are simply grunts. If so, inform Strillian and try to get him to spread the word. Make sure to mention the fact that we used to be scholars.

As well as:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Before we go, spill to the General our intel about Ascended Sleepers. They clearly don't know about them, so we ough to tell. Tell the General they're high-ranking members of the Sixth House Cult and possess highly advanced mutations and magical abilities. They favor poison spells for offense and their tentacles are deadly in melee. They leave behind only a skull when killed.

Tell him that there are cultists hidden in cities all over the island, and it's possible one of them might have transformed into the creature. Tell him the names of the cultists known to us. Namely, Hanarai Assutlanipal in Ald'ruun.

Seriously. Our best use right now is providing information. We need to tell the highest ranking person we can everything we know.

I'd like to point out that if we do this, we WILL miss our assignment. I can only see negative things coming of this.
We have already established ourselves as "learned". Talk to the Champion, tell him we have heard about this creature in our studies, and share basic info on what they are. This may save our life.

Tell him that, before we leave, we have some very very important information for the General. If he asks what, tell him. Also, before we leave, tell the general it might be in Great House interests for them to send backup.

Go over tactics with the Champion on the Strider. Ascended sleepers pack a punch but move slowly. If engaged from multiple angles with arrows and spells, utilizing cover to avoid magical retaliation, we might just bring it down, but a full frontal assault will likely fall to area-effect spells. If asked why we know any of this, say it's classified.

[Putnam]

I'm for explaining.

[Iituem]

Quietly ask Strillian what the deal is with the Champion.  He seems to be a controversial choice, so if there's a nasty surprise there it might be an idea to know in advance.  Do this while we're in transit, mind, don't delay our setting off.

[Man of Paper]

We should volunteer to assist Dagoth Ur.

[gman8181]

Not unless we are okay with the possibility of getting horribly deformed and losing Michael's mind.  Making a deal with Dagoth Ur is probably more dangerous than joining the Televanni house or making a deal with a Daedra Lord both of which I had suggested and which were shot down as being too dangerous.

[WillowLuman]

Joining 6th house is right out. I'd like a chance to speak with Dagoth Ur, but it's not likely to happen in any way we'd be safe with.

Quietly ask Strillian what the deal is with the Champion.

Good idea.

[CognitiveDissonance]

Quietly ask Strillian what the deal is with the Champion.

Good idea.

+1

[Supercharazad]

The why doesn't matter right now, since they'll believe us when we face the thing. We need to lay out exactly what we're going to say. To get them to believe us, for example, we start with a physical description. All we've heard is "a slug in a robe." We say "Highly decorated robe, grey skin, face a mass of tentacles and holes," and when they see we were right, they'll know we know what we're talking about.

Sorry about the all-bold post before.

I think the information before - background info, types of spells they use, and how to fight them. As outlined in those two posts:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

At the very least, one of us should look up everything we can on Ascended Sleepers, and post that information for us to share with our squad. If our squad leader is the highest ranking member we can inform, so be it - at the very least, inform them. If we will fight him, let us fight him with a plan that might lead to victory.

Spells Known by ascended sleeper:
25-75 pts melee
Dagoth's Bosom - Drain Fatigue 20 pts for 30s on Target
Fire Storm - Fire Damage 1-10 pts in 10ft for 10s on Target
Frost Storm - Frost Damage 1-10 pts in 10ft for 10s on Target
Paralysis - Paralyze for 5s on Touch
Shockball - Shock Damage 2-40 pts in 10ft on Target
Ash-chancre blight disease - Drain Personality 20-40 pts
Ash-Woe Blight blight disease - Drain Intelligence & Willpower 20-40 pts
Black-Heart Blight blight disease - Drain Strength & Endurance 20-40 pts
Chanthrax Blight blight disease - Drain Agility & Speed 20-40 pts

Basic Info
Level   25
Health   300
Magicka   300
Fatigue   400
Soul   400
Spells/Abilities   (See below)
Combat Skills   80
Magic Skills   80
Stealth Skills   20
Damage   25 - 75

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I say it's time to start Mantling... a blades agent. To do so we must suddenly act and talk completely differently.

"In event of full-scale Sixth House attacks, I become an active agent. I am now cleared to provide information on the forces we are dealing with, as the scale of this threat is now beyond clandestine means."

This... could work. If they buy it, this would also allow us to leave afterwards, as our sleeper mission is fulfilled.

No way that would work. These people saw us get taken down by an orc, with little fight from our end. They have also seen us struggle greatly with basic training.  I would like to vote towards the story about us reading about these. We should also on the stilt strider ride inform the Champion of the Ascended Sleepers combat abilities, but dumb it down a tad. Inform them of the fact that they can paralyze, cast fire, ice and shock spells. They can tire the troops, and infect them with diseases. And there is always the chance that the guy will simply not take our advice as we are simply grunts. If so, inform Strillian and try to get him to spread the word. Make sure to mention the fact that we used to be scholars.

As well as:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Before we go, spill to the General our intel about Ascended Sleepers. They clearly don't know about them, so we ough to tell. Tell the General they're high-ranking members of the Sixth House Cult and possess highly advanced mutations and magical abilities. They favor poison spells for offense and their tentacles are deadly in melee. They leave behind only a skull when killed.

Tell him that there are cultists hidden in cities all over the island, and it's possible one of them might have transformed into the creature. Tell him the names of the cultists known to us. Namely, Hanarai Assutlanipal in Ald'ruun.

Seriously. Our best use right now is providing information. We need to tell the highest ranking person we can everything we know.

I'd like to point out that if we do this, we WILL miss our assignment. I can only see negative things coming of this.
We have already established ourselves as "learned". Talk to the Champion, tell him we have heard about this creature in our studies, and share basic info on what they are. This may save our life.

Tell him that, before we leave, we have some very very important information for the General. If he asks what, tell him. Also, before we leave, tell the general it might be in Great House interests for them to send backup.

Go over tactics with the Champion on the Strider. Ascended sleepers pack a punch but move slowly. If engaged from multiple angles with arrows and spells, utilizing cover to avoid magical retaliation, we might just bring it down, but a full frontal assault will likely fall to area-effect spells. If asked why we know any of this, say it's classified.

All this stuff

[WillowLuman]

So: It moves slow, hits hard, shoots big area magic. Therefore: surround it, engage at range using cover. Sounds good?

Also, I don't think we should tell our fellow soldiers why we know these things at all, but rather let the veracity of our information show itself, such as with the visual description plan earlier mentioned. If we want to become interesting (and thus get somewhere), cultivating an air of mystery would be useful. Excuses and lies can be seen through, and may hinder our credibility. Better to be eerie than have this conversation and seem incompetent in our information:

"I read it in a book somewhere."

"What book? And why has our vast and highly trained intelligence branch never heard of it?"

"Um..."

We want them interested in us, not some book.

[Jarod Cain]

So: It moves slow, hits hard, shoots big area magic. Therefore: surround it, engage at range using cover. Sounds good?

Also, I don't think we should tell our fellow soldiers why we know these things at all, but rather let the veracity of our information show itself, such as with the visual description plan earlier mentioned. If we want to become interesting (and thus get somewhere), cultivating an air of mystery would be useful. Excuses and lies can be seen through, and may hinder our credibility. Better to be eerie than have this conversation and seem incompetent in our information:

"I read it in a book somewhere."

"What book? And why has our vast and highly trained intelligence branch never heard of it?"

"Um..."

We want them interested in us, not some book.

I approve of this.
-J-

[PTTG??]

I'm trying to catch up to speed, have we, as of yet, reviewed physics? Obviously Morrowind's original laws aren't entirely in effect (we'd have noticed that gravity doesn't apply to inanimate objects), but what about other concepts? One thing that could be somewhat easily tested is electrical conductivity. Possibly we could find some thin metal wire, coil it, and use a cheap scroll to provide some voltage, and use that to see if we could make a magnetic field. If that works, then maybe we can try some more complex stuff...

If we can get some decent firepower, a Dwemer ruin might provide the tools we need to bootstrap something interesting.

Joining 6th house is right out. I'd like a chance to speak with Dagoth Ur, but it's not likely to happen in any way we'd be safe with.

The big problem with joining the sixth house is going to be the fact that the Nerevarine is going to do some bad things to a lot of house members. Unless we know for sure that the Nerevar isn't going to be a problem...