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[PanH]

Has anyone successfully stealthed bank heist?

Yes. Guards and the bank manager move around, and sooner or later, they'll come behind, near the stairs and the bin, or on the roof. So wait for them to come, kill them (the bank manager too, preferably), put them in a bag. If the bank manager has the card, then, sneak into the security post and kill the guy inside. If not, sneak into his office to take the card before. Now, cameras are deactivated. There's generally a last guard in the main room. Go in from the side, and shout down the two guys at the reception, they have alarm button. Don't hesitate to kill them, since they can decide to trigger the alarm even when you're threatening them. Now, keep all the civilians calm, one guy stay outside to stop any incoming civies. Enjoy.

[Thexor]

Don't forget that there's another panic button near the back door, so you need it covered. Also, you'll need a Mastermind with the pager upgrade; there are too many guards for you to answer all the pagers otherwise. Finally, keep an eye out for civilians walking past in the street. This may include shooting them, if they're outside the map's boundaries.

I'm kind of sad there isn't a better reward for stealthing the bank, to be honest. The bank employees obviously have a way to open the vault... perhaps a 'quick release' that only takes 30 seconds to open the door, but is disabled once an alarm is sounded? Right now, a successful stealth run involves several minutes of standing around, yelling at civvies to pass the time.

[Rez]

Capture the manager and force him to open it.  If he inputs the wrong combination, you execute a hostage.  Repeat until he opens it.

[Knight of Fools]

Just completed the Framing Frame job on Overkill and stealthed the last mission. It took three hours. I felt sick near the end because I was so nervous something would go wrong...

HOW

Seriously!

I spent way too long just trying to stealth the first part, stealing the art.  What's the trick with it?  Did you do it solo?

It's a rough trip. I actually just did it again this morning and got just under $1 million, and somehow we managed it on the first try. Even more boggling, I was the only one with a mic and one of our guys didn't speak English. So it's very possible, as long as everyone knows what they're doing.

The first level is easy: Get someone with shape charges or ECM hacking and blow the security door if you can't stealth it. Stealthing mostly consists of splitting up and trying to grab all of the paintings before the alarm's sounded, and then running the roof to get the paintings to the car. If you can't stealth it, you really need someone that can bypass that security door. Get all of the paintings though. The last level is hard enough as it is without them.

The second level is even easier. Once you get the guy four paintings, the back door will open and you can start moving money. Just move it as far as possible, crap only hits the fan once you've handed off the last painting. Someone with the throwing skill will be useful here to move the money over obstacles for a quicker getaway.

The final level is where it sucks. You need someone with both Dominator and Smooth Talker. Intimidate all the guards you can and kill those that don't get intimidated. Once the guards are out of the way, the biggest problem is the cameras. You can't destroy too many or the alarm will go off. Everyone who has it should bring an ECM jammer. One person stays on the camera at all time to spot guards and find the electronics.

You mostly have to be really lucky. Once you open the vault you're good, as long as a stray guard or camera doesn't spot you.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Just stealthed overkill, pro-job bank heist: gold with Tnx and some other gentleman, all the gold + every safe deposit box. We each got about $300,000 in spendable cash!

[Rez]

You mostly have to be really lucky.

A sign of gameplay that I won't bother with.  Just take a shottie, ventilate a number of cops equal to the population of DC, and walk out with the money throw the money 20 yards at a time to the van.

Framing frame is the only mission I've done where it's legitimately easier and faster (?) to do things entirely stealthed than to blitz or hunker down.  If you do an overkill watchdogs or rats, you're looking at similar money per time without the luck or touchiness.

[Tnx]

Anyone wanna try some stealthy heists with Scoop and I in about 30 minutes?

[Knight of Fools]

I just did Big Oil, which is, up to this point, one of the most difficult missions because it's based entirely on luck, even if you know what you're doing. We managed to narrow which engine we needed to take out to two or three by only taking two that were different enough from the others. In a bizarre twist of luck we managed to get the right engine on our first try, right at the point where we were starting to get overwhelmed. Got an achievement for it and everything.

The final payout? $51k. Yeah, screw that noise. Don't bother with it. The reward sucks for the amount of effort you put into it.

[Azurestrike]

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Wot's dat spell? Lods of emone!

And then a week passes and that's nothing.

[Brons]

I must have played about 8 bank heist yesterday with the same people and I discovered that the saw is a great tool. We must have had 20 bags after opening all the boxes. It's definitely something I'm going to get.

[PanH]

I just did Big Oil, which is, up to this point, one of the most difficult missions because it's based entirely on luck, even if you know what you're doing. We managed to narrow which engine we needed to take out to two or three by only taking two that were different enough from the others. In a bizarre twist of luck we managed to get the right engine on our first try, right at the point where we were starting to get overwhelmed. Got an achievement for it and everything.

The final payout? $51k. Yeah, screw that noise. Don't bother with it. The reward sucks for the amount of effort you put into it.

I thought it was luck too. Then I read this guide : http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=169756908

Framing frame is the only mission I've done where it's legitimately easier and faster (?) to do things entirely stealthed than to blitz or hunker down.  If you do an overkill watchdogs or rats, you're looking at similar money per time without the luck or touchiness.

I kinda agree with you here, the only bonus you can get only on stealth is the gold in Day 3 framing frame. Though stealth can also be faster. If they removed some of the randomness, and some civies bug, it would be better. The bank heist is the most rentable mission imo, since you can do it in 10 minutes. If you do watchdogs or rats quickly, it can compete maybe.
Also, what shottie are you using ? The Reinbech is nice, but I found the Izhma terrible. And the last has some serious drawbacks (but the damage bar is entirely filled  )

[Knight of Fools]

I just did Big Oil, which is, up to this point, one of the most difficult missions because it's based entirely on luck, even if you know what you're doing. We managed to narrow which engine we needed to take out to two or three by only taking two that were different enough from the others. In a bizarre twist of luck we managed to get the right engine on our first try, right at the point where we were starting to get overwhelmed. Got an achievement for it and everything.

The final payout? $51k. Yeah, screw that noise. Don't bother with it. The reward sucks for the amount of effort you put into it.

I thought it was luck too. Then I read this guide : http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=169756908

Yeah, that's the guide I was running my assumptions off of. It was the first time any of us had done it, and I was the only one who knew exactly what to look for. For the life of me I could only find one clipboard (The one telling us which chemical it was). The computer with the information and the second clipboard were AWOL. I'm pretty sure it was a bug, since I double checked the entire house and lab several times. Finally one of the other guys used Video Game Logic™ to guess at which pressure could be right (If two or more engines were at similar pressures with the same number of hoses, then they obviously weren't it). We grabbed two that were different enough and left.

The fact we got it on our first try was pure luck, all things considered.

[Rez]

I've been using the pump and the revolver.

[nenjin]

I think Stealth pays off when you don't have a Technician or Saw to expedite all the drilling. Very Hard/Overkill, we've gotten some bullshit combinations, like 3 or 4 Bulldozers at a time in close quarters. Our guy with the Shotgun has usually been the one to put them down but even he can't deal with that many at once.

Plus you're really only one bad exfiltrate zone away from problems in some of those runs.

I like Mallcrashers, personally. Just shoot out most of the glass while the drills work and you'll have it in no time. I also like how you don't have to do much if any running around.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I'm trying to decide whether to go smg or shottie for my secondary, my primary is a silenced, scoped, sniper-butted ak-47 so I don't have to worry about stealth or range. I guess the decision is between a back up rifle (basically) or a high-damage gun to better handle assaults, etc. what do you guys think?