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[Ozyton]

Yeah the share button on the PS4 controller I'm not a huge fan of. I'd rather have a 'select' button and have all the social stuff be in the menu that opens when you push the PS button.

Also, strange choice of music for that video...

[Bdthemag]

The Xbox One is unsurprisingly, really really shitty for people serving overseas.

At this point, Microsoft has handled this so badly I don't really think they have a good chance at "Winning" the console war. The PS4 is already 100$ cheaper, is going to have less restrictions (It isn't free of them, but it's a hell of a lot better than the Xbone), and is going to be available in more countries. Unless Sony REALLY, REALLY messes up I see them easily picking up the most customers. PS4 preorders are already exceeding Xbox One preorders on Amazon, and I've seen multiple big polls on various website showing a clear PS4 preference. The only reason I foresee people buying the Xbox One, is if Microsoft presents a large variety of exclusives.

I'm not even a PS4 fanboy, I've pretty much have always been a PC guy and I don't even plan on buying either console in the near future. It's just obvious that the PS4 already has a huge lead.

[hemmingjay]

I am honestly apprehensive about both consoles for different reasons, but equally so. I don't like the potential used game fiasco that xbox might do(even though I really don't trade games since they only give you like $9). I also don't like the kinnect always being on because it will be a headache with my overly paranoid(but cute) wife. Then there is the constant sharing/social crap PS does, plus they get hacked a couple of times a year and I wasn't happy with how they addressed it. Further, PSN servers go down a lot but it has slightly better hardware than the Xbox.

I'll keep the Xbox in my living room, since I use mine now for movies a lot and it has the space for Kinnect.
I'll put the PS4 in the bedroom since it's nearly pure gaming and I don't have to worry about accidental sex tape exposure.

[Lectorog]

I hope developers learn from console sales and move away from Xbox exclusives. Unless M$ keeps hold of that with some sort of long-term contract, which wouldn't surprise me.

[hemmingjay]

The Xbox One is unsurprisingly, really really shitty for people serving overseas.

At this point, Microsoft has handled this so badly I don't really think they have a good chance at "Winning" the console war. The PS4 is already 100$ cheaper, is going to have less restrictions (It isn't free of them, but it's a hell of a lot better than the Xbone), and is going to be available in more countries. Unless Sony REALLY, REALLY messes up I see them easily picking up the most customers. PS4 preorders are already exceeding Xbox One preorders on Amazon, and I've seen multiple big polls on various website showing a clear PS4 preference. The only reason I foresee people buying the Xbox One, is if Microsoft presents a large variety of exclusives.

I'm not even a PS4 fanboy, I've pretty much have always been a PC guy and I don't even plan on buying either console in the near future. It's just obvious that the PS4 already has a huge lead.

They already stated there will be special codes that enable everything for soldiers, including removing the always on crap. Also, there isn't a clear lead by either console and Xbox One is still outselling PS4. It's just our PC gaming echo chamber makes it seem like the whole world is against the Xbox One. The numbers are, and will certainly remain, just about even the entire cycle. I would be surprised if either leads by more than 5% at any point.

[Kansa]

They already stated there will be special codes that enable everything for soldiers, including removing the always on crap. Also, there isn't a clear lead by either console and Xbox One is still outselling PS4. It's just our PC gaming echo chamber makes it seem like the whole world is against the Xbox One. The numbers are, and will certainly remain, just about even the entire cycle. I would be surprised if either leads by more than 5% at any point.

Actually it isn't any more

[hemmingjay]

Yeah, there is quite a bias in those stories. The data comes from June 10-12th only. Also, Amazon has the Xbox One Day one edition in the charts but not the regular Xbox One, lol. There is very little reliable data at the moment.

[Bdthemag]

I don't like the share button either, but unless I've missed a few announcements (My attention for E3 was pretty much exclusively on the Konami shows), it seems like people are misinterpreting it. From what I've seen, it's a way to take screenshots/videos and either keep them or share them over social media. I despise anything related to social media, but it seems better than flat out integration. Frankly, from the various gaming communities I visit it seems that the people who are the hardcore Xbone fans like to use the share button to go "Stop focusing on the Xbox, the PS4 has THIS."

In my mind, the only real issue I see so far with the PS4 is the introduction of payed online services. But considering the average console gamer is used to getting fucked over by online fees, they'll adjust. The possibilities of the PS4 having lolnogaems is slim, since I doubt Sony would make the same mistake that they made with the PS3 again.

Also, why would you buy both? That's around $1,000 in cost, you know what you could do with it? Buy a gaming computer. Or hell, if you want something to use for movies you could buy, you know, a TV. If you want, I can also link to multiple websites and polls showing a clear preference towards the PS4 if you want. And considering the internet is primarily a place where the core, and hardcore gaming communities meet it shows what the main gaming crowd wants. This isn't counting casual, or softcore gamers but it's a pretty damn good estimate.

[hemmingjay]

I have both of the previous consoles, and a rather beefy gaming PC. Everything has a purpose.

[Bdthemag]

Yes, but I don't get the point of getting an Xbox One for TV related purposes. The TV part is supposed to complement the gaming part, so you have an all in one device. What's the point of using the Xbox One exclusively for TV and Movies, when you'll have to pay additional fees to access that? Isn't Netflix Gold on the Xbox One supposed to cost $60 or something?

[Ozyton]

I have a gaming PC and I used to have a PS3 (until it broke). The main purpose to owning a console is 1: play with friends who play on that console. 2: play exclusive titles.

Also apparently sharing games with people is a big deal, and you can't do much of that on a PC

[Kansa]

Yeah, there is quite a bias in those stories. The data comes from June 10-12th only. Also, Amazon has the Xbox One Day one edition in the charts but not the regular Xbox One, lol. There is very little reliable data at the moment.

I would argue that between those dates is where it really matters at the moment, there was no information on the prices of the consoles before those dates and many people still thought that the PS4 would have restrictions similiar to the Xbox One.

And if you look at the amazon UK site which isn't showing the day one edition for PS4, the standard PS4 is outselling both the day one edition of the Xbox One and the regular one

[Bdthemag]

I guarantee you at this point, the Xbox One isn't going to get many customers who aren't the softcore/casual crowd. So far, the only exclusives that we can assume are going to be on it are the generic shooters, and seeing as how the past years haven't had much in terms of unique Xbox exclusives I doubt we'll see many.

The thing is though regarding PC's, sharing isn't as big as an issue since games often don't run for the full $60 retail price. Games still do on the PC, but those are usually from the publishers who are idiots and think that a digital copy of a game should be the same price as a hard copy. The ease of accessibility and the lower price outweighs the lack of sharing features.

[UltraValican]

What excuse is there to not make your console backwards comptable? You think it would give people more incentive to buy the system?
 You have people who already own a PS3 and  a ton PS3 games(lets pretend this is Bizarro Earth), that will feel better about the transition since they aren't losing a bunch of games they own. People who don't own a Playstation at all will have more reasons to buy the PS4 since they can also buy from the large PS3 library as well as whats coming out on the PS4. Backwards comparability encourages existing customers to stay your customers, while giving newcomers more incentive to become a customer. It just seems like your shooting yourself in the foot for the sake of some "platinum edition" remastering down the line.

Also, is the Xboned Microsoft's way of getting out of gaming? It seems like corporate suicide would be less hilarious/doritos encrusted.

I guarantee you at this point, the Xbox One isn't going to get many customers who aren't the softcore/casual crowd. So far, the only exclusives that we can assume are going to be on it are the generic shooters, and seeing as how the past years haven't had much in terms of unique Xbox exclusives I doubt we'll see many.
All they need is the casual crowd. That being said, their system is so horrible that even the casual/sofcore crowd grows weary of it.

[Bdthemag]

If you start catering entirely to the casual and softcore crowd, naturally the core crowds will gravitate away from that console and move to the competitor. Sure, casuals are great to make money off of in the short term, but you could make much more money by catering to a niche crowd. Why do you think niche games profit so much? If you get a devote and knowledgeable fanbase, you'd arguably make much more than a casual fanbase who you continuously try to nickel and dime off of.