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Author Topic: If you hate consoles... Xone love hate?  (Read 43677 times)

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Re: If you hate consoles... Xone love hate?
« Reply #90 on: May 22, 2013, 12:39:41 am »

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Yeah, thats really annoying. I get ads for games, movies and music and to get to the settings part of the dashboard, I need to go past ALL of them.
And by "get past ALL of them", you mean not actually looking for an ad in one of the corner tiles?
The Xbox ads aren't that intrusive, even compared to regular banner/skyscraper ads you would find browsing the internet.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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« Reply #91 on: May 22, 2013, 12:52:22 am »

But why are they there in the first place?

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« Reply #92 on: May 22, 2013, 12:56:18 am »

Because extra money is nice?
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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« Reply #93 on: May 22, 2013, 01:10:52 am »

Wait... Waaait.
How are they legally allowed to do that? If you buy a game it is yours. You legally own the rights to one copy of the game. That includes the right to sell that copy if you so choose. How is Microsoft able to navigate this?

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« Reply #94 on: May 22, 2013, 01:13:47 am »

How is Microsoft able to navigate this?
Ignoring it and Money.
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Re: If you hate consoles... Xone love hate?
« Reply #95 on: May 22, 2013, 01:18:39 am »

I'm fairly sure right now, buying a game is more of buying a "license" to use a game, and the means to use it.

At least, this is what many companies have been using in piracy arguments.
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« Reply #96 on: May 22, 2013, 01:26:21 am »

With everybody talking about the DRM (justifiably so, as it is pants-on-head retarded), I'm surprised that nobody (that I've seen in a quick skim) has talked about the ugly design. Seriously, it's like the ancient IBM ThinkPads my Journalism teacher is so fond of. A big ugly block of black plastic. And it's designed to lie flat instead of standing up, just so that it takes up as much space as possible.

I barely touched on it @ page 3, with "the specs in the PS4 and X1 are basically a mid-range gaming PC crammed into a HTPC case."

Sure, it's visually plain.  So is the case my PC lives in... but when I'm using it, I'm not looking at the case.

The custom melted-plastic look that MS used for the 360 is unnecessary design energy spent, and makes air cooling throughput more difficult.  In hindsight, I wouldn't be surprised if the real reason for the RROD debacle on the 360 was a cooling failure of a critical part.

On top of that, I'm guessing that MS is trying to not alienate people who don't identify as Gun-Bro sh00t3r d00dz.  The title Gamer still carries a stigma with it, and something as visually obvious as a 360 Makes-You-A-Gamer in a lot of people's eyes.  Even if you're not actively contributing to the CoD-BLOPS-a-lypse or the LoL-ocaust.

MS wants to win the war for the living room.  If they succeed, it will be on the merits of what the software does for people, not how overwrought the case is made to look.
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« Reply #97 on: May 22, 2013, 01:36:13 am »

I like the new case design. It looks like they finished everything else and then said "Ok, now we just put it in a case and ship it!" as opposed to "We need it to e all curvy and shit!"

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« Reply #98 on: May 22, 2013, 03:05:13 am »

Another amazing thing you can do on your Xbox: Skype.

Interesting thing I took from that video: "We added in the new lean feature to Call of Duty Ghosts. No, that wasn't in Call of Duty 4. Look, dogs! Pet him and train him and call him London."
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« Reply #99 on: May 22, 2013, 03:40:20 am »

Another amazing thing you can do on your Xbox: Skype.

Interesting thing I took from that video: "We added in the new lean feature to Call of Duty Ghosts. No, that wasn't in Call of Duty 4. Look, dogs! Pet him and train him and call him London."
That made me laugh real hard... Also Im proud to say i loved the Xbox first gen, it was a console where you play game with little extra feature, pop in your favorite music, burn it and play it while you game your favorite games, that was about it and NEVER HAD to be more than that. I MIGHT get one for some exclusive game ( RPG does play well on console ) WHEN and ONLY when they crack it open and strip it of all the shitty stuff because we all knoiw after what they just did there is  alot of team that will try to strip it down and remove all frigging useless DRM/protection/ads/useless stuff...

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« Reply #100 on: May 22, 2013, 04:08:52 am »

Another amazing thing you can do on your Xbox: Skype.

Interesting thing I took from that video: "We added in the new lean feature to Call of Duty Ghosts. No, that wasn't in Call of Duty 4. Look, dogs! Pet him and train him and call him London."
That made me laugh real hard... Also Im proud to say i loved the Xbox first gen, it was a console where you play game with little extra feature, pop in your favorite music, burn it and play it while you game your favorite games, that was about it and NEVER HAD to be more than that. I MIGHT get one for some exclusive game ( RPG does play well on console ) WHEN and ONLY when they crack it open and strip it of all the shitty stuff because we all knoiw after what they just did there is  alot of team that will try to strip it down and remove all frigging useless DRM/protection/ads/useless stuff...

Original Xbox, hell yeah. When my brother got married and gave me his I was a bit skeptical, but man it is the BOMB. Amazing exclusives (nowhere near Nintendo level, but they had JSRF and Halo before they were ported to PC). The controllers always seem to be just the right shape and size for me, no matter what brand.

One of the things that peripherally peeves me about the Xbox One is that it'll be even harder to talk about the original Xbox, since most people associate "Xbox" with the 360 nowadays. There's probably going to be an Original Xbox next gen, so we're going to have to call it the Xbox, No Not That One, The One That Came Before 360.
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Re: If you hate consoles... Xone love hate?
« Reply #101 on: May 22, 2013, 04:48:12 am »

You could always refer to it as the XHalo-1-Device...

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« Reply #102 on: May 22, 2013, 06:27:03 am »

There are so many people in this thread spreading rumors and opining without even the slightest bit of research. There is no fee for used games. There is no always on connection. About the only thing still worth bitching about is that it's not backwards compatible. Your XBOX 360 will still be supported and xbox live service will continue to work for the 360 for sometime. Further, your subscription to Live will work for both consoles, no need to pay twice.
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« Reply #103 on: May 22, 2013, 07:55:36 am »

As hemmingjay just stated, there will be no fee when buying a used games, but what he did not say is that games will surely be bound to account. It stands logical than in order to lend a game to a friend or to sell one of your games you'll have to unbind the game from your account. This also means that you'll have to create an account to play games on an X1, and also that you'll need an internet connection the first time you'll play a game (and actually, maybe each time you'll start one), because the console will have to check if the game is not already bound to another account.

My speculations may actually be wrong, but that's how I understood the whole thing. I hope I'll be proved wrong.

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Some quotes from Phil Harrison, on Eurogamer:
Quote from: About used games
We will have a system where you can take that digital content and trade a previously played game at a retail store. We're not announcing the details of that today, but we will have announced in due course.
Our goal is to make it really customer-centric, really simple and really understandable and we will announce those details in due course.
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Xbox One requires an internet connection, but it does not need to be connected all the time
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« Reply #104 on: May 22, 2013, 08:12:57 am »

There are so many people in this thread spreading rumors and opining without even the slightest bit of research. There is no fee for used games. There is no always on connection. About the only thing still worth bitching about is that it's not backwards compatible. Your XBOX 360 will still be supported and xbox live service will continue to work for the 360 for sometime. Further, your subscription to Live will work for both consoles, no need to pay twice.
Oh, thank you!
Also thank you for not including the look of the case in "Things you can legitimately bitch about"
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