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[hemmingjay]

Lol, funny stuff!

[hermes]

I love my 360, over the years I've had an amazing time with online shooters.  A year ago I was a guaranteed Xbone customer.
Microsoft have jerked off over all the goodwill they've earnt for a number of reasons which I really can't be bothered to list, but mainly because of this getting into bed with EA and possibly Activision/Ubisoft in an attempt to get a stranglehold on the big-games market.

Their behaviour has already crushed 90% of the talent that had been built up and has forced devs with integrity to build up their businesses from scratch.  Thankfully kickstarter has helped that along a bit.  I'm totally behind the PS4 now, and am happy to see Sony leading the trolling of the Xbone from the front.

I'll likely buy the new 360 when the price comes down, and a PS4 for Dragon's Dogma 2.   

[Ozyton]

Oh, another thing that PS4 has going for it is supporting the "indies" as it were.

As for the games Xbox is featuring being better than PS4's, I forget, what were the good ones? I think someone mentioned the titan mech thingy but I'm not really interested in that.

[Kansa]

The titan mech one is on PC and the 360 as well

[Kansa]

Edit: Sorry did not mean to double post

[hemmingjay]

Oh, another thing that PS4 has going for it is supporting the "indies" as it were.

They both support Indies. In fact the Xbox 360 sold more indies than anyone, both professional indie games through their arcade market and then garage and homebrew indies through their "indie section" of their store. Sony had no use for indies on the PS3 and it was probably for the best. Their digital store was a bit of  disaster. I am happy they will be charging a monthly fee now so they can put some resources into their store.

[hemmingjay]

Some of the launch titles for Xbox:
Ryse: Son of Rome
Forza Motorsport 5
Kinect Sports Rivals
Dead Rising 3
Killer Instinct
Project Spark
Titanfall
More to come: Expected to have 13-16 on launch day and 30 games within the first 2 months.

Launch titles for PS4:
Killzone
Drive Club
Knack
Definitely more to come, but it is likely to be like the last 2 console cycles for them, where it take a few months to get a flood of good games.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Ryse: Son of Rome
Forza Motorsport 5
Kinect Sports Rivals
Dead Rising 3
Killer Instinct
Project Spark
Titanfall
Killzone
Drive Club
Knack

Who honestly cares about any of these? I've heard zero buzz.

[hemmingjay]

Michtlantechuli, Are you a console gamer? These are console games and several of them a sequels to popular series. Also, they have just been announced which might be why you haven't heard any buzz.

[Krevsin]

I really don't get this whole "no backwards compatibility" thing.

It would open the consoles to some of the greatest gaming libraries to date. I mean, PS3 is a nightmare to emulate, sure, but the PS2 isn't. Why doesn't Sony support PS2 backward compatiblity? It'd make a pretty penny on selling digitalised (but otherwise unaltered) gaming classics from the PS2 era. The market for retro games is there (as proven by GoG), and the PS2 had some really snazzy games, like Silent Hill 2 (The original version, not the HD bullshit) and tons more. It'd expand their initial roster of games immensely, and they wouldn't need to rely so heavily on blockbuster games to start a console off.

Also, I do not like the Xbone or the PS4. Yeah, one has a much better developed common sense than the other, but that does not mean it's not guilty of some really stupid ideas (Hey! You can now take control from someone else online and officially become that guy! isn't that cool? You can also pester everyone about which games you're playing, something no-one really cares about! You can also record yourself playing games, but we won't tell how much you can edit the footage, where it will be uploaded to and all that stuff Let's Players and people who record games for a living need. We are so clever, we should begin building a bigger money bin for all the profit we'll surely make./sarcasm)

And I doubt that the indie developers will get much love from the Xbone and the PS4. They need massive titles that make a massive amount of money, which means they'll probably go on the path of "The copy of whatever's popular will surely give us some green!" and extend a gigantic middle finger to indie developers with innovative ideas who are unwilling to pay tremendous amounts of money needed to get their game published.

But those are just my incoherent ramblings of a person who likes consoles but dreads this new generation which isn't a new generation, but more like an extension of the current one.

[Kansa]

The reason there is no backwards compatibility is because it would increase the price of the console without any real increase in sales, why on earth would I buy a ps4 to play ps2 games when I can just buy a ps2 for £20 on amazon. They don't even get money from the ps2 games anymore because there are only used copies now.

And actually Sony showed off a lot of indie games at their conference and as they can self publish on the PS4 there should be quite a few more to come as well.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

These are console games and several of them a sequels to popular series. Also, they have just been announced which might be why you haven't heard any buzz.

Call of Duty and Halo are popular series as well -- Noone cares about the beaten horse of new releases, though. Forza is dead. May as well tell me a new Gran Turismo is coming out.

Dead Rising 2 barely made a blip. DR1 was popular as a launch title, as the console lacked basically anything else to play that wasn't sports.

Killzone is about as generic a shooter as they come.

Where are the games that made people go 'Ahhh' - The Katamari Damachi, the Oni, the Pikmin? Hell, PaRappa the Rapper was a genuinely great game. Console gaming is dead, driven to death with their infusion of generic cookie-cutter-ideas and gameplay. Not to mention my 350$ computer has better computational and graphical ability than the Xbone/PS4 [a 1,000$ investment], so I think I'll stick to emulating them with better graphics.

[hemmingjay]

These are console games and several of them a sequels to popular series. Also, they have just been announced which might be why you haven't heard any buzz.

Call of Duty and Halo are popular series as well -- Noone cares about the beaten horse of new releases, though. Forza is dead. May as well tell me a new Gran Turismo is coming out.

Dead Rising 2 barely made a blip. DR1 was popular as a launch title, as the console lacked basically anything else to play that wasn't sports.

Killzone is about as generic a shooter as they come.

Where are the games that made people go 'Ahhh' - The Katamari Damachi, the Oni, the Pikmin? Hell, PaRappa the Rapper was a genuinely great game. Console gaming is dead, driven to death with their infusion of generic cookie-cutter-ideas and gameplay. Not to mention my 350$ computer has better computational and graphical ability than the Xbone/PS4 [a 1,000$ investment], so I think I'll stick to emulating them with better graphics.

I agree some of those games you have mentioned are fun, but your tastes are far from mainstream. Consoles are all about mainstream, which might explain some of the disdain shown for them here.

[GlyphGryph]

Isn't Spark exactly the sort of game you're talking about?

Anyway, news says the PS4 will not be region-locked. That is... pretty big news. Man, it is just one shot of "caring about our customers" after another from Playstation now...

[Tellemurius]

Isn't Spark exactly the sort of game you're talking about?

Anyway, news says the PS4 will not be region-locked. That is... pretty big news. Man, it is just one shot of "caring about our customers" after another from Playstation now...

Something tells me the guys from their mobile division are spilling over to the other units i mean seriously, Sony Mobile has now fully embraced the development scene for android for allowing full access to their source code on their phones to even hosting one of the XDA events for this year. Did something happen to Japan while i was gone, why are they all nice to consumers now?