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Author Topic: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Week 3  (Read 56225 times)

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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #465 on: June 19, 2013, 07:32:06 pm »

I thought we pollinated the hybridrone.
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #466 on: June 19, 2013, 07:34:44 pm »

An attempt was made at that, but it didn't take for some reason.
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #467 on: June 19, 2013, 08:11:21 pm »

An attempt was made at that, but it didn't take for some reason.

I guess Polyhedra, Goddess of the Dice was not kind to the Hive.

So, given the winds of favor on the board so far I'm going to say upgrade the Heavy Soldier towards fertility and introduce more S-caste elements into the Hive; perhaps we can get some proper Predators out of the arrangements and maybe some other nasty combat forms yet to be devised (Giant Burrowing Predators, Spiny Flying Predators, etc).

Also, is it possible to determine if the Uplifted Chimps (and maybe by proxy the Humans) brains are compatible with psychic manipulation by the Flowers? As in, the controlling link that the Flower has over the Kaibrid, is something similar or related possible with either of them?

Edit: Yes, I like this idea. We will upgrade the Heavy Soldier into a monstrously Heavy, Fertile Soldier; A Kai worthy of the title of Hive Tyrant and worthy of being Our mate. One who will produce nice, heavy offspring capable of really showing the bipedals a FUN time.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2013, 08:23:56 pm by Noxes »
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #468 on: June 19, 2013, 08:55:14 pm »

An attempt was made at that, but it didn't take for some reason.

I guess Polyhedra, Goddess of the Dice was not kind to the Hive.

So, given the winds of favor on the board so far I'm going to say upgrade the Heavy Soldier towards fertility and introduce more S-caste elements into the Hive; perhaps we can get some proper Predators out of the arrangements and maybe some other nasty combat forms yet to be devised (Giant Burrowing Predators, Spiny Flying Predators, etc).

Also, is it possible to determine if the Uplifted Chimps (and maybe by proxy the Humans) brains are compatible with psychic manipulation by the Flowers? As in, the controlling link that the Flower has over the Kaibrid, is something similar or related possible with either of them?

Edit: Yes, I like this idea. We will upgrade the Heavy Soldier into a monstrously Heavy, Fertile Soldier; A Kai worthy of the title of Hive Tyrant and worthy of being Our mate. One who will produce nice, heavy offspring capable of really showing the bipedals a FUN time.
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #469 on: June 19, 2013, 10:09:37 pm »

We have many-many fertlizing options...

Current:

LV-2 Navigation drone - Smart offspring, possible tech queen

LVL-2 soldier - Quite smart and combat capable offspring. Possible war queen

LVL-1 pollinator - agriculture offspring. Agriculture queen that may be adept at

Digging  drone - more miners forces. Deep queen

Also, we may delay fertilizing till day 13 hoping to use some newly hatched Kai, like spined predator


My priority on mate making

1) Fertilizing  Pollinator:  That will strengthen our link with flowers and probably allow more princess flowers

2) Launch a competition between mining drones, choose the best digger, the one most adapted for going real deep.
That will allow us to go that "hide in the hole" route better

3) Fertilizing nav drones : boosting our tech research rate

4) Fertilizing soldier... IMO, other options will produce good enough soldiers. economics are just more important

And whatever mate we'll make not forget to include that small electric resistance we got blueprints of


As for the second queen, I'd really prefer to delay that and use commanders for reproduction. By spending royal jelly on boosting Kai we get an immediate benefit unlike queen that needs time to mature. Also, I'd prefer to make the queen using offspring of well advanced male Kai.
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #470 on: June 19, 2013, 10:35:28 pm »

I also support fertilizing the pollinator.Can we make other tweaks at the same time or is fertilization such a big deal its all we get
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #471 on: June 19, 2013, 10:39:01 pm »

You can make more, as You are of the Body. Tech Queen could not.

Kai already have immature pre-sexual organs; it's just a matter of forcing them to develop into "actual male" or "actual female" as opposed to "Pre-female".
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #472 on: June 19, 2013, 10:58:50 pm »

In that case lets see about also giving him the ability to encourage ( and possibly influence) the flower's ability to take up genes from other plants. S, instead of  grafting or cross pollinating being a hit or miss thing he(or one of his descendants) can psychically influence the flower to take this trait or that trait from the graft. 
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #473 on: June 19, 2013, 11:45:35 pm »

Ross, question. Did you happen to take inspiration for the Kai from the Bugs from Starship Troopers (novel)?
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #474 on: June 19, 2013, 11:52:05 pm »

Sources of inspiration include Robotech's Invid (Flowers of Life), WH40K's Tyranid (Castes and forms), Orson "Douchebag" Scott Card's Buggers (Psychic), Starcraft's Zerg (Caste and forms), Butcher's Vord (Caste and forms, again), Cameron's Xenomorphs/Aliens (horror), and Winston/Cameron's Yautja/Predators (tech).

I have yet to read Starship Troopers, surprisingly enough.
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« Reply #475 on: June 19, 2013, 11:56:14 pm »

Sources of inspiration include Robotech's Invid (Flowers of Life), WH40K's Tyranid (Castes and forms), Orson "Douchebag" Scott Card's Buggers (Psychic), Starcraft's Zerg (Caste and forms), Butcher's Vord (Caste and forms, again), Cameron's Xenomorphs/Aliens (horror), and Winston/Cameron's Yautja/Predators (tech).

I have yet to read Starship Troopers, surprisingly enough.
They're controlled by psychic brain bugs, have fleets of advanced spaceships and at least plasma tech, evolution abilities and to boot the novel came out in the 50s, so it predates anything else bar the original short story The Thing.
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #476 on: June 19, 2013, 11:57:58 pm »

So I suppose that in a sense, yes I was influenced by the Bugs. Thanks for letting me know, I love seeing the chains of causation in things!
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #477 on: June 20, 2013, 04:23:21 am »

In that case lets see about also giving him the ability to encourage ( and possibly influence) the flower's ability to take up genes from other plants. S, instead of  grafting or cross pollinating being a hit or miss thing he(or one of his descendants) can psychically influence the flower to take this trait or that trait from the graft. 
Very major change for secondary royal jelly use. And too niche, not all children to be  pollinators

I'd rather either
a) Boost it's cold resistance to a respectable level so they can operate in cooler places
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b) Modify it's digestive system to be more tolerant to the toxins and produce a nice fertilizer as a waste
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #478 on: June 20, 2013, 09:24:54 am »

I prefer B. This is a step towards an agriculture cast and, for the moment, they will be underground. If we wind up doing a soldier mate by all means make him cold resistant, fighting on the surface will require it.
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Re: You Are A Kai Queen, 2.0: Night 11 - Monkey to Man
« Reply #479 on: June 20, 2013, 02:29:37 pm »

Construction
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Military
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Flowers
1)Provide the Princes flower with its optimal conditions
2) polonate the Princes flower and save some princes polen aside
Royal jelly
Fertlize the LVL1 pollinator
-Make its waste products work as fertilizer for the flowers and give it the ability to safly digest plant toxins like from the hybrid flower   

Eggs
Lay:Spined comander

Bioresearch
Plant some of the human plant samples
« Last Edit: June 20, 2013, 02:38:20 pm by kopout »
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