Lenglon also strikes me as suspicious, but for reasons different from other arguments that have been made. This is more of a mutual distrust issue than anything. Certainly there would be some little nugget from my post to swing me in either direction... I suppose I will ask a question in return... Lenglon, be a bit more detailed on what you think of me. Don't be shy about it.
Your opening post was, as is typical for opening posts, made under little to no pressure whatsoever. your predecessor turned and
fled replaced under the mildest of pressure, so I couldn't get a reliable read on him. So I simply skimmed over your opener to look for any obvious mistakes and moved on when I didn't find any. as I said then, new player, old one lurked too much for me to get a read, therefore null. neither scum nor town, and prone to having my read of you change on a hairtrigger.
Lenglon: I want tho know what you think about Shinigami putting you at the bottom of the scum list. He called you scummy, but not why. Do you find this suspicious in any way? What about your weak-sauce attempt at pressuring Shinigami? Do you honestly believe that Shini cracks after someone questions him in a matter of semantics? Do you plan on buddying with him for the rest of the game? Will you start acting independently eventually? I ask this because you guys have generally been pressuring the same people. First Vector, of course, then you both questioned Day, ( I admit that this isn't as apparent as the others, but I still believe that this pertains), then you vote RangerCado right after Shinigami does so. I'm not necessarily accusing you of BOTH being scum, but I don't want you guys blinded by past relationships when someone brings up a good case on the other.
if you dont mind, i'll handle this in segments.
I want tho know what you think about Shinigami putting you at the bottom of the scum list. He called you scummy, but not why. Do you find this suspicious in any way?
You're refering to this I assume:
Lenglon- Scummy but probably suspected less than everyone else (except ford, he is special. See below.) I was thinking of attacking you just to see if you would slip up and look any scummier but you seem less of a concern. Besides, you are good at scumhunting so you can stir up the "civilians". Man, I like using that word in mafia don't I?
In short. Everyone is scummy except Ford who is null. I would say scum ranks are in this order.
Ranger
Pup (position interchangeable with griffy)
Griffy (position interchangeable with pup)
Demdem
Vector
Cheesecake
Lenglon
You're right that he didn't state why I looked scummy in that post, and that was a change from earlier, but I didn't find it suspicious at the time mostly because me being read as scummy seemed like the "in" thing at the time, and it was only a mild change from earlier in any case. as for my position in the rankings, although my placement isn't really explained, everyone else's is. so, process of elimination applies here.
What about your weak-sauce attempt at pressuring Shinigami? Do you honestly believe that Shini cracks after someone questions him in a matter of semantics?
No, I think I was flailing. That total failure of a pressure attempt was one of the many reasons I felt that I had to take a day and chill.
Do you plan on buddying with him for the rest of the game? Will you start acting independently eventually? I ask this because you guys have generally been pressuring the same people. First Vector, of course, then you both questioned Day, ( I admit that this isn't as apparent as the others, but I still believe that this pertains), then you vote RangerCado right after Shinigami does so. I'm not necessarily accusing you of BOTH being scum, but I don't want you guys blinded by past relationships when someone brings up a good case on the other.
I make up my own opinions, as does shinigami, and as should everyone here. If you or anyone else presents a strong case against him, I have every intention of listening and, after considering the situation for myself and making up my
own mind on it, voteing for him if he comes out looking like scum.
Shinigami + Lenglon: Birdy just voted me so his reasons are fresh but please fully restate/refine your cases against me.
You're playing reactively, not proactively. you respond to when other players question you, but dont take initiative on your own. you have been lurking, and lied when questioned about it. You have yet to pressure anyone strongly. You hide your thought processes, making it difficult to check for if you are contradicting yourself. This is why i'm voting for you.
Dem: you have missed several questions asked of you. please answer them.
Ford: what do you think of Day?
Vector: I saw and understood your explanation of why you're staying on the sidelines for now, but how long do you plan to continue this?