Long post because of ranting at Shinigami; I apologize to those who aren't him in advance.
Shinigami:
I recently picked up a job in my mornings and then I have classes most of the day, I tend to be more active 6pm-1am PST; likewise I tend to be more active over the weekend as I have more free time. Stop expecting people to follow your strict regiment of activity and calling them lurky when they've not been so.
Right then; on to Q&A time:
Demdemeh, Griffionday- you both have your votes on me and I have no way to protect myself if there is no substance to block. If you are voting for me, at least attack me. You both have just kind of will-o-the-wisped your way out of here.
Well you could start by addressing what I voted for you on:
plenty of material here for you to address about your play so far.
GriffionDay- Trying to be friends with the IC eh? Well would you explain why? There is no reason truly to support her seeing as she isn't really that pressured here. It seems like you just want a future friend to give you a get out of jail card.
Why am I supporting her? Pretty much the same reason that you're attacking her: my opinion of how she's going about ICing; and a desire to let her know my opinion so she doesn't feel forced to change what she's doing because of some idiots. Of the two of you, she's been doing far more good for town by actually scum-hunting, putting together her reads on people and advising those who came to learn from an experienced player. You on the other hand have actively disrupted someone's play, and haven't done much since to aid town in getting reads.
Notes on where I see your actions as violating town etiquette:
1: If someone is applying pressure on someone you don't see as scummy, think about why they are doing so.
Even if you can't see their case give them some time to develop it. Maybe they saw hints of something that you missed and are applying pressure to see if they can get their target to display it again so they can show the rest of town. On the other hand maybe they don't really have a case and are just applying pressure to look like they are doing something. Again by waiting for a bit you can observe them and see if their case develops into something substantial, if it doesn't and they don't back off then they are probably either guilty of tunneling or are scum; in either case pressure is appropriate to get them to rethink their case a bit.
2: This is something that I personally have major difficulties with but:
Just because they have a different play-style than you, doesn't make their play-style wrong. This is critical to remember, especially for us newer players; being different than we expect doesn't make them scum, being similar to what we consider to be scum makes them scum, and that is very hard to differentiate in the middle of the game.
On that note:
Fight me like a forum troll or something... I don't know... Anything?
I've already pointed to where you missed my case on you: as you completely missed them, this comes off as asking for a redo, it's not even deflecting, it's just that you can be bothered to answer my case on you.
Do so.GriffionDay
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That's why I am voting GriffionDay, because he has been active but has not drawn a ton of attention.
Your original post was decent by itself as you presented a simi-reasonable (if stupid, more on that in a bit), but by posting that second bit you wreck any pressure your vote could have had, showing that you really don't care where your vote is. As town, your vote is a weapon as you can use it to levy pressure on people, as scum your vote is a liability as you will be judged on the strength of your case and if you're not able to defend it you will be outed. Of course if you can show that "Oh that was just a pressure vote" you're safe, so a weak vote is a natural defense for scum.
Especially with buddy buddy GriffionDay over there.
I'm honestly a bit disappointed.
Part of my scum hunting technique is to engineer situations where scum and town would naturally act differently. I leave outs in my arguments after a certain amount of pressure to bait scum into grabbing on to them, as town will typically ignore these and try to prove their innocence via explaining their actions as best they can. Leaving these outs gives me additional information on the type of panic my target is doing: which I hope you can see would be useful.
What you attacked was not one of these situations. I made it clear in my post that I saw that the content of what I was saying was borderline buddying, but I felt that this was a rare instance where it would actually help strengthen town by keeping one of our strongest scum-hunters active and engaged rather than standing by and letting her be worn out by your frankly idiotic attack (see above for why it was idiotic). My question is; are you ACTIVELY trying to weaken the strongest town members (which she has a 7/9 chance of being)? Because if not; why are you so insistent that everyone play this game exactly as you wish them to, especially those with years more experience than you?
Lenglon:
GriffionDay- Trying to be friends with the IC eh? Well would you explain why? There is no reason truly to support her seeing as she isn't really that pressured here. It seems like you just want a future friend to give you a get out of jail card. I am going to agree with ranger here and say what are the chances of both Lenglon and myself were the last townies to both be scum. I can guarantee you that, that is not the case. That of course would require you to take my word for it but seriously. What are the chances. When I finish my homework I will make a nice beutifully long post about this seeing as that is what everyone wants. Until then Ciao~
Shinigami: Is that a confession?
Shinigami: the reason I voted you was simple. that quote assumed that one of us was scum, and I know it's not me. It looked a lot like a slip to me, an accidental confession of being scum.
Desperate to distance yourself? I ask because you explain your vote as based on Shinigami assuming one of you must be scum, but the section you quoted simply doesn't assume that at all.