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PeridexisErrant

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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3480 on: April 05, 2016, 10:28:30 pm »
Quote from: Dustin on April 05, 2016, 09:29:55 pm
can we move our saves from vanilla df 42.06 to the latest stable version?

You can't ever move saves to an earlier version of DF, but apart from that the Starter Pack is save-compatible.

So use the 42.06 Starter Pack, and you'll be fine.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3481 on: April 09, 2016, 10:57:28 am »
Just downloaded the pack earlier today, however the launcher wont launch. I'm getting (what I believe to be) an error page. called "stderr" which says the following.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What should I do?
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3482 on: April 09, 2016, 12:24:27 pm »
Quote from: Roboson on April 09, 2016, 10:57:28 am
Just downloaded the pack earlier today, however the launcher wont launch. I'm getting (what I believe to be) an error page. called "stderr" which says the following.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What should I do?
Have you extracted LNP from the zip file and placed the contents in a directory? I wouldn't be surprised if trying to execute from within the zip will result in errors. (...\Documents sounds like an odd place to put DF, but as a place when the downloaded file would be placed).
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3483 on: April 09, 2016, 03:39:17 pm »
Quote from: PatrikLundell on April 09, 2016, 12:24:27 pm
Quote from: Roboson on April 09, 2016, 10:57:28 am
Just downloaded the pack earlier today, however the launcher wont launch. I'm getting (what I believe to be) an error page. called "stderr" which says the following.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What should I do?
Have you extracted LNP from the zip file and placed the contents in a directory? I wouldn't be surprised if trying to execute from within the zip will result in errors. (...\Documents sounds like an odd place to put DF, but as a place when the downloaded file would be placed).

The path in stack traces is the build path from my machine; it's an artifact of the tool used to create the executables. It bears no relation to where the pack is extracted.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3484 on: April 11, 2016, 01:24:33 pm »
Crash City lately.  With both 42.06 and going back to 42.05 and now even with the stable pack 40.24r20....so frustrating.

Not tree related either just blowing up for no apparent reason.  Just now with 40.24 I was digging out a pasture area near my farms after breaching the cavern and while they were digging I was building farm plots.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3485 on: April 11, 2016, 03:40:37 pm »
TwbT is known to increase the crash frequency. I'd start fault finding by using using vanilla and then adding stuff, one thing at a time. Start by disabling DFHack from the LNP UI, exit, and then start the DF exe itself from the file system. If that doesn't crash, move to starting it from the UI, but with all utilities disabled, add DFHack, but disable all features (workflow, performance tweaks, etc). Add TwbT back if you're using it. Add each of the DFHack thingies you use one at a time.
At some stage in the process you'll probably find a marked increase in crash frequency, and the latest thing added is likely to be the culprit (although combinations of things cannot be ruled out, of course).
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3486 on: April 11, 2016, 04:34:56 pm »
Guys, I'd be happy to solve the crashes (if they're caused by TWBT) if you could follow these instructions http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754.msg5624349#msg5624349 and send me crash reports.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3487 on: April 11, 2016, 07:50:01 pm »
Quote from: mifki on April 11, 2016, 04:34:56 pm
Guys, I'd be happy to solve the crashes (if they're caused by TWBT) if you could follow these instructions http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=138754.msg5624349#msg5624349 and send me crash reports.

"http://tmp.emsisoft.com/fw/crash_dump_settings_use_only_on_vista_and_later.zip"
still on XP here.
maybe ina  feww weeks once i get a new (second hand) Computer with win7.
also without TWBT and Mousecontrols the game is unplayable to me.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3488 on: April 11, 2016, 08:02:21 pm »
Quote from: Pvt. Pirate on April 11, 2016, 07:50:01 pm
still on XP here.
maybe ina  feww weeks once i get a new (second hand) Computer with win7

Just speaking for myself here, but the Starter Pack doesn't support XP.  It might or might not work - but if you're using an OS past end-of-life, that's your problem not ours.

This makes me sound like a jerk, but there are too many known problems I can't fix...
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3489 on: April 11, 2016, 09:26:38 pm »
Quote from: PeridexisErrant on April 11, 2016, 08:02:21 pm
Quote from: Pvt. Pirate on April 11, 2016, 07:50:01 pm
still on XP here.
maybe ina  feww weeks once i get a new (second hand) Computer with win7

Just speaking for myself here, but the Starter Pack doesn't support XP.  It might or might not work - but if you're using an OS past end-of-life, that's your problem not ours.

This makes me sound like a jerk, but there are too many known problems I can't fix...

"End-of-life" is just a date set by Microsoft, the OS doesn't suddenly stop working or become unstable on that date. I'm not a big fan of supporting older OS versions too when it comes to iOS for example, where new versions really have useful (for developers I mean) features. But I don't know what in DF/DFHack/TWBT can be more unstable on XP than on later versions.

Anyway, it's even easier to get crashlog on XP, I'll check at home (yep, I use XP to build Windows versions of my plugins too).
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3490 on: April 11, 2016, 09:36:06 pm »
Quote from: PeridexisErrant on April 11, 2016, 08:02:21 pm
Quote from: Pvt. Pirate on April 11, 2016, 07:50:01 pm
still on XP here.
maybe ina  feww weeks once i get a new (second hand) Computer with win7

Just speaking for myself here, but the Starter Pack doesn't support XP.  It might or might not work - but if you're using an OS past end-of-life, that's your problem not ours.

This makes me sound like a jerk, but there are too many known problems I can't fix...
understandable.  i won't bother you with my bugs in the future - except if got win7 here.
so  many of the DFHack probs i got could've just been due to XP support ending?
if yes, just write "yes". and i definitely won't bother myself and you with any other crashes and just hope my current savegames will work once i switch tio win7.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3491 on: April 11, 2016, 10:30:30 pm »
I'd honestly be surprised if XP were the issue. Generally, platform-specific problems manifest themselves when DF launches or loads a game, not at random times in-game. If it's TwbT-related, it's possible that old graphics hardware/drivers could be the cause of intermittent crashes, but enough people have reported issues without XP that I can't blame XP specifically.
(Of course, upgrading shouldn't hurt the situation either, and I would recommend that if you can.)
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3492 on: April 11, 2016, 10:51:51 pm »
when you're saying "crashes on saving" then, yes i've got those a plenty.

i'm about to receive a new "senond hand computer with win7" "soon", so i'll no longer have that prob.

just don't you bother solving my probs until i've upgraded.  8)
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3493 on: April 11, 2016, 11:37:03 pm »
(I don't expect XP itself to be the problem, but at this point it's usually associated with old hardware and drivers.  Also no security updates can be pretty serious...)
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Re: PeridexisErrant's Starter Pack, 40.24-r20
« Reply #3494 on: April 11, 2016, 11:48:19 pm »
i got some security updates for the XP 2008 server whatever, but i guess it's definitely tiem to go on to a new OS.
anyway i won't spend a dime for a Microsoft product again, so i'll have to wait for the (old) PC with win7 preinstalled.
i coudl switch to linux any day, but that'd mean a lot of loss of software, so i hesitated many months already.
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