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Author Topic: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?  (Read 10570 times)

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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2013, 10:05:18 pm »

They'd both realize that they're voiced by Mark Hamil and join forces. Universes will burn.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2013, 10:07:07 pm »

As I recall, the actual reason was battle-stress and identification issues. That is to say, the people they were shooting looked like human beings. Not the uniformed security guards, not generic alien soldier #41, actual, human beings, with feelings and lives. Get all up in someone's face, see their face and not a silhouette, and it's actually hard to maintain accuracy against them, hence battle-stress. These sort of thoughts creep up.


They, on the other hand, are faceless automata, and so shooting them is easy. Like in a video game. You're not shooting real people, they're just things. Clones, in this case. In a video game  how many times are the enemies faceless versions of one another? All the time. And you're accuracy doesn't suffer even under all sorts of stresses, including anything from being surrounded to what-have-you. Looking into someone's face, causes a moment's hesitation.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2013, 10:09:56 pm »

Are you talking about why the stormtroopers were bad shots? Many of them didn't worry about that sort of thing. Not just anyone can become a stormtrooper, only the elites. A good portion of them were brainwashed or cloned anyway.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2013, 10:11:28 pm »

Are you talking about why the stormtroopers were bad shots? Many of them didn't worry about that sort of thing. Not just anyone can become a stormtrooper, only the elites. A good portion of them were brainwashed or cloned anyway.
I just handwave it as being the Force.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2013, 10:26:04 pm »

Are you talking about why the stormtroopers were bad shots? Many of them didn't worry about that sort of thing. Not just anyone can become a stormtrooper, only the elites. A good portion of them were brainwashed or cloned anyway.
Feeds my theory. Trained people don't get battle-stress, and don't hesitate.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2013, 10:30:27 pm »

Are you talking about why the stormtroopers were bad shots? Many of them didn't worry about that sort of thing. Not just anyone can become a stormtrooper, only the elites. A good portion of them were brainwashed or cloned anyway.

I imagine the first batch, aka the first clones, were pretty badass.  Then they started making clones of clones...and then... it didn't turn out so well.

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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2013, 10:45:17 pm »

I like Misko's answer.  (Five posts back, now.)

Imagine two boys from Tattooine (or any other forceforsaken planet where it's a hard life).  Each wants to get out of the sand-dunes(/jungle/snowdrifts/whatever) and decides to join up.  One joins the Imperial forces, the other finds themselves with the Rebellion.  Not being good enough to bullseye womp-rats from a T-16, they find themselves in the respective infantry units, rather than jockeying Tie Fighters or X-Wings.

Then, one fateful day, their paths cross again.  Our Imperium lad finds he's staring at the Rebel lad he grew up with back home on whatever rock/forest-world/iceball it was.  Training, and even mental conditioning are cut through by the sight of his best friend, wearing the typical Rebel attire, directly in front of him.  The Rebel lad looks back to see... yet another stormtrooper aiming his gun in vaguely his direction.  Bang, bang! Squeel, squeel!?  Ah, but alas, only one shot struck home.  And the tragedy is that the only person who knew of the connection, and of the possibility that under different circumstances this would be a joyous reunion, has just been cut down...

So many Galactic Standards (or whatever they use, again) in Imperium taxes have been used to train the Imperial recruit and mould him and equip him with the latest in weaponry and armour[1] and send him out in the field.  Meanwhile the Rebellion spends its funds (from wherever they get them) hacking into the Personnel Databases of the Imperium (hey, a single R2 droid can break through into the computer systems of an entire Death Star station!), doing a smart match of where individual troops are deployed against the backgrounds of their own ranks (unbeknownst to the ground-pounders themselves) in order to deploy their own forces in the most optimal way to ensure a 1-to-1 match of Rebel soldier to Stormtrooper in as many firefight engagements as logistically possible.

Maybe the problem with the Blockade Runner was that the Rebels just weren't prepared enough.  Captain Antilles (or whoever it was, again) was stuck with the troops he had on board, not prepared enough for the forces that boarded him (or possibly prepared for a different encounter, perhaps one he would have had later, perhaps one that happened earlier and which they had survived).  With not one flicker of recognition (and a big guy in black with an "auto-erotic-asphyxiation-by-proxy" fetish helping the wannabee-clones to concentrate on the task at hand), the classical Rebel defence method was doomed...

Yes, yes, that explains it all quite nicely.  I don't know why I didn't think of it before...


[1] Incidentally, the former better than the latter... I mean if you were in control can you really trust the Troopers, after what you did with their Clone predecessors to the Jedi?  Make sure you can cut them down, thus unruly lot of of non-clone recruits.  With the only practical physical requirement being that they fit the armour, and ideally not be noticeably short.

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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2013, 11:11:42 pm »

The major issue with the empire is their sheer size, decadence, and the fact that the empire is falling apart on its own.

This means that for every 1000 Galactic dollars only 1 actually goes to a Storm Trooper, and of every 1000 dollars a Storm Trooper gets about 99% of it is wasted then even if the Trooper gets his orders there is a 99% chance it was made by an incompetent officer.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2013, 11:38:42 pm »

And then it became the solution to any and every possible problem ever.
I know this is a little late, but there are three things the sonic screwdriver fails at solving:
1)"Deadlock seals", which are also made of plot
2)Wood. It doesn't really have any effect on things made of wood.
3)Living things. It can scramble them a little bit at times, but most of the time it doesn't have much effect on rampaging aliens.

And personally I'd take the sonic over the lightsaber, it's got much more utility then the lightsaber does. (Plus seriously, how long do you think it would take after I handed a lightsaber to someone untrained in it's use before they lost a foot or something? An hour?)
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2013, 11:43:59 pm »

The Sonic Screwdriver has little use on certain devices that aren't made to unseal.

"Deadlock seals" aren't so much made of plot so much that the Sonic Screwdriver only can manipulate. It cannot "lift" a deadlock seal.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2013, 12:40:54 am »

What I want is a sonic screwdriver with a lightsaber function. Best of both worlds!
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« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2013, 01:00:58 am »

What I want is a sonic screwdriver with a lightsaber function. Best of both worlds!

That would be a Laser Screwdriver.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2013, 01:10:08 am »

Do the question is, would a plasma screwdriver shoot balls of green plasma?

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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2013, 01:23:37 am »

Do the question is, would a plasma screwdriver shoot balls of green plasma?

Silly Max, everyone knows Plasma cannot drive screws.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2013, 01:25:44 am »

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