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Author Topic: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?  (Read 10552 times)

Xantalos

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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2013, 08:23:36 pm »

What powers them then?
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Energizer?
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2013, 08:23:46 pm »

I'm going to go with Cylon Babies.
Or something from that universe. Star Wars scared me away from Sci-fi until last year (watched it as a kid and thought it was all sci-fi, ever), and I watched a couple of Doctor Who episodes but wasn't a big fan, it was just too...I don't know, silly? for me.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2013, 08:42:27 pm »

What powers them then?
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Energizer?

What powers a Laser rifle?
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2013, 08:45:07 pm »

What powers them then?
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Energizer?

What powers a Laser rifle?
Poor aim. Just imagine you are missing, and it happens!
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2013, 08:51:13 pm »

How do we know laser rifles even do anything? Have you ever seen anybody get hit with one?
What if they are just used to scare away rebel scum, but are as harmless as a flash light, so they miss intentionally so nobody ever finds out...

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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2013, 09:05:31 pm »

How do we know laser rifles even do anything? Have you ever seen anybody get hit with one?
What if they are just used to scare away rebel scum, but are as harmless as a flash light, so they miss intentionally so nobody ever finds out...
So they're, riot police?


Would never have guessed the Empire was so thoughtful.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2013, 09:06:57 pm »

How do we know laser rifles even do anything? Have you ever seen anybody get hit with one?
What if they are just used to scare away rebel scum, but are as harmless as a flash light, so they miss intentionally so nobody ever finds out...

Well yes we have. The issue is the Stormtroopers couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if they put the barrel against it.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2013, 09:08:27 pm »

What powers them then?
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Energizer?

What powers a Laser rifle?
Magical crystals? I got no clue.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2013, 09:30:00 pm »

I'm upset and dismayed by the lack of Star Wars knowledge in this thread :|

Lightsabers and blasters (and many other things in the galaxy, but these are the relevant two) are powered via power cells. You can think of them as BATTERIES IN SPACE if you really want to. They're rechargeable and come in a wide variety of shapes and sizes.

And yes, we have seen people get hit with "laser rifles" (they're blasters, dammit!). They tend to leave smoking craters through solid armor, if they have sufficient power behind them. Nasty weapons and you wouldn't want to be hit by one.

Stormtroopers only have terrible aim and worse armor when the plot demands it. Anyone remember the opening scene from A New Hope? The stormtroopers obliterated the security team of the Tantive IV while taking maybe four casualties total. They're highly elite units in the background material.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2013, 09:31:52 pm »

I think of a 'Sonic' screwdriver as a corruption of 'Psionic' screwdriver.

Like the 'Psychic Paper' it's a Do-What-I-Mean tool.

I guess it's probably both, Psionic control of a Sonic effect.
I do believe that it although it has "settings" (possibly a myriad of them), like the one to cut/uncut barbed wire (but very few, if any, which work well with wood), it has been shown to "do what the wielder is thinking it ought to do".  Inside the Tesselector (or whatever it was called), I think is an example of that behaviour.

It is somewhat a "machina ex deus", as it were.  Mind you, Light Sabres can be made "solid and unburning" and could be alikened to a wooden staff that could be leant upon, or an unbreakable lever.  But I think the magic of the Light Sabre is mostly in the mind of the Force User.  (Certainly it was so in the old D6s Star Wars RPG, not sure if that's translated to the D20 variant that I've never played.)

I'm sure that you could "Sonic" the Sabre to disrupt it (stop it working, or mangle its internals to make it more dangerous, for either the wielded-against or the wielder).  OTOH we know that the Screwdriver is not itself made of indestructible Unobtainium/Handwavium alloy[1], and even when not physically damaged (for example, one half finds itself left inside a sky-shark) there are times (often crucial ones, though never utterly crucial) that the circuits/workings/whatever can overload from feedback or something else.  As such, a carefully timed  (possibly pre-emptive[2]) slash, or a Force Throw in a boomarang arc, could leave you with the distinct advantage[3].

However, I do know one thing.  With the advantage of Elite Stormtrooper Training, you probably need only possess a particularly viciously sharp slice of mango to prevail against the guys in white.  I've always imagined that the body armour is reactive body armour, manufactured inside out by accident.  You're better off wearing a leather jerkin, in such a gun-fight...

(Also I think you know (even if just in you heart) the answer to the old dilemma...  What happens if Imperial Stormtroopers fight Enterprise Redshirts..?  Answer: The Stormtroopers all miss, but the Redshirts die anyway.)


[1] Hmmm... I wonder if the Doctor could make a Sonic shell out of Dalekanium alloy?  Or might the peculiar energies in that cause Problems (TM).

[2] If you're not worried about accumulating Dark Side Points ;)

[3] Insofar as leaving the Doctor without a plan, without a weapon and without a hope of success ever gives you the advantage...
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2013, 09:32:29 pm »

Stormtroopers only have terrible aim and worse armor when the plot demands it. Anyone remember the opening scene from A New Hope? The stormtroopers obliterated the security team of the Tantive IV while taking maybe four casualties total. They're highly elite units in the background material.
Clearly these were fakes. Storm Troopers have a long and colorful history of having people pretending to be them.

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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2013, 09:35:40 pm »

Stormtroopers only have terrible aim and worse armor when the plot demands it. Anyone remember the opening scene from A New Hope? The stormtroopers obliterated the security team of the Tantive IV while taking maybe four casualties total. They're highly elite units in the background material.
They had Vader with them.  He probably rolled some Force Points (and added his Dark Side Points to that.... it's not like gaining any more would matter to him) for an already high Force Control skill.
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Re: Sonic Screwdrivers vs Light Sabres?
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2013, 09:36:29 pm »

Stormtroopers only have terrible aim and worse armor when the plot demands it. Anyone remember the opening scene from A New Hope? The stormtroopers obliterated the security team of the Tantive IV while taking maybe four casualties total. They're highly elite units in the background material.
Clearly these were fakes. Storm Troopers have a long and colorful history of having people pretending to be them.
They were based off of Clone Troopers, who I remember doing some things that are almost militarily impossible.
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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2013, 09:58:33 pm »

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Stormtroopers only have terrible aim and worse armor when the plot demands it. Anyone remember the opening scene from A New Hope?

Ohh I am fully aware of the existence of Plot armor.

It is what allows Spiderman to avoid stray shots from full auto (Spiderman cannot dodge bullets and his Spider sense is an imprecise sense), it is why no villain ever just kills Bond, it is why Batman holds his own in the JLA.

Luke has POWERFUL plot armor.
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« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2013, 10:02:03 pm »

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Stormtroopers only have terrible aim and worse armor when the plot demands it. Anyone remember the opening scene from A New Hope?

Ohh I am fully aware of the existence of Plot armor.

It is what allows Spiderman to avoid stray shots from full auto (Spiderman cannot dodge bullets and his Spider sense is an imprecise sense), it is why no villain ever just kills Bond, it is why Batman holds his own in the JLA.

Luke has POWERFUL plot armor.

We have a new ultimate battle. Who would survive longest, the Joker or Luke Skywalker?
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