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Author Topic: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)  (Read 12064 times)

Neonivek

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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #150 on: May 15, 2013, 06:48:17 pm »

Leafsnail has intentionally been trying to derail and deconstruct this thread for some time now and there comes a point at which it is no longer acceptable. He just reached that point.

People do that... it gets annoying.

Though I honestly don't know where we even were in the Furry discussion anyhow. Except maybe that the presentation of the anthopomorphised animals tend to lay in what people perceive of the animal rather then the animals own instincts.
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« Reply #151 on: May 15, 2013, 08:53:25 pm »

Leafsnail has intentionally been trying to derail and deconstruct this thread for some time now and there comes a point at which it is no longer acceptable. He just reached that point.

People do that... it gets annoying.

Though I honestly don't know where we even were in the Furry discussion anyhow. Except maybe that the presentation of the anthopomorphised animals tend to lay in what people perceive of the animal rather then the animals own instincts.
WAY earlier we were talking about comics, and there was some other psychology stuff too.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #152 on: May 15, 2013, 09:00:33 pm »

Don't forget the discussion about what would happen if we developed the technology to graft functional tails and whatnot onto people. Despite what the naysayers have repeatedly said, there hasn't been much discussion of pornography here.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #153 on: May 15, 2013, 09:06:20 pm »

(Tried to do some heavy editing, for fear of crossing a line that I'm not entirely sure of.  About the only thing I knew was 'safe' was about 1970s Lego sets[1].  Which is off-topic.  So consider this message deleted.  I'll come back on-topic once I'm sure I'm not causing problems with doing so.)



[1] Put me down as a "they're not 'Legos'".... 'it' as an arbitrary collection is 'Lego', a single piece of that is a 'brick' and they are 'bricks' in plural."  I know this is a contentious issue amongst some people who insist on talking about "Legos".  But you take about "a grain" and "some grains" of sand.  And a "pile of sand".  Oh dear, gone off-topic again.  But at least well in the safe territory of discussion.
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« Reply #154 on: May 15, 2013, 09:08:01 pm »

Most Furries who would want to wear a Fur suit... cannot simply because of the expense (Thousand dollars +)
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« Reply #155 on: May 15, 2013, 09:12:45 pm »

Going to be honest, that seems a bit extreme. I wouldn't spent over a thousand on a wizard hat (Unless it was literally the best fucking hat in the universe and wearing it was akin to good hood) so it is a little surprising to know people will actually spend that much.

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« Reply #156 on: May 15, 2013, 09:14:25 pm »

1000 is like a professional, top quality, I'm-going-to-a-furry-CEO-meeting fursuit.
Besides, they can be rented.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #157 on: May 15, 2013, 11:12:56 pm »

Leafsnail has intentionally been trying to derail and deconstruct this thread for some time now and there comes a point at which it is no longer acceptable. He just reached that point.
Pffffahahahahahahah.
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« Reply #158 on: May 15, 2013, 11:14:13 pm »

1000 is like a professional, top quality, I'm-going-to-a-furry-CEO-meeting fursuit.
Besides, they can be rented.

1000 is pretty standard from what I hear.

At least if you want it custom.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #159 on: May 15, 2013, 11:39:09 pm »

Leafsnail has intentionally been trying to derail and deconstruct this thread for some time now and there comes a point at which it is no longer acceptable. He just reached that point.
Yay I was waiting for another sig.

Sigs: apparently a way to be passive aggressive at people you don't like!

On the subject of furries... I am uncomfortable about the subject because it is a fetish.
I like things with anthropomorphic animals, but calling it a furry thing just creeps me out and makes me like the thing less.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #160 on: May 15, 2013, 11:50:40 pm »

1000 is like a professional, top quality, I'm-going-to-a-furry-CEO-meeting fursuit.
Besides, they can be rented.

1000 is pretty standard from what I hear.

At least if you want it custom.
The pricing varies mostly by how popular the maker is and how quickly they can produce professional quality. 1000 is honestly a lot, even for a full-suit (a lot of people just get the head, paws, maybe forearms or full arms depending on the rest of their costume, and feet, which is a 'partial'). For that you can get a -very- nice suit from Beastcub, airbrushed quality. Most heads hover around 200-400. Which, for a lot of people, is around what they're willing to spend as a one-off splurge for something fancy, like a better computer, or a power tool, what-have-you. It's getting to be interesting in that it's becoming much harder to start out as a maker, even with very high quality, so people are forced to sell for less and work sweatshop-style so that they can be complained at by buyers for taking too long, and then complained at by buyers that it looks wrong, and then not paid.
Leafsnail has intentionally been trying to derail and deconstruct this thread for some time now and there comes a point at which it is no longer acceptable. He just reached that point.
Yay I was waiting for another sig.

Sigs: apparently a way to be passive aggressive at people you don't like!

On the subject of furries... I am uncomfortable about the subject because it is a fetish.
I like things with anthropomorphic animals, but calling it a furry thing just creeps me out and makes me like the thing less.
sig: Yeah, I was bothered by that too. What's the deal, man?

Second thing. Eh. I'm the last person to say that 'Hurp durp that's a minority not all of us are like that!' because, well... But it's always been interesting to me mainly because it's about exploring humanity from a different perspective. Freefall, posted earlier, is a good example, although the differences are made pretty superficial. Examining the way we treat and think of animals is also a facet that's underserved in literature, which is touched upon in a lot of the non-porn writing the fandom produces.

If you think about it, it's closer to reality than the way we think of humanity - humans are animals, and behave like animals, however much we cover it up with social constructs. In fact, examined from the outside, our social constructs are a part of our characteristics as animals. So anthropomorphizing other animals thoughtfully (or caricaturing ourselves) is the closest we can get to examining how an outsider might see us, and maybe from that we can glean some kind of impartiality towards our behavior.

Not that this kind of fiction is common whatsoever, it just justifies the entire thing to me pretty effortlessly when I see it done well.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #161 on: May 15, 2013, 11:56:50 pm »

Yeah, okay people exploring Animals as people is fine. I like Watership down and a lot of other stuff with animals acting like humans, but when I hear furry my mind immediately goes to porn.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #162 on: May 16, 2013, 04:57:53 pm »

Thread reopened.

And guys, stop being so sensitive to the word "furry". It's such an idiotic thing to even go near debating the definition of, and on top of that, you are not allowed to mention ANYTHING with a remotely sexual context on this forum. Stop calling it a fetish.

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Don't forget the discussion about what would happen if we developed the technology to graft functional tails and whatnot onto people. Despite what the naysayers have repeatedly said, there hasn't been much discussion of pornography here.
The "naysayers" (everybody who has been against the existence of the thread, for whatever erroneous reason) are the majority of people bringing up porn at all.
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #163 on: May 16, 2013, 04:58:51 pm »

Maybe if it was called something like Fuzzy

That way we could have some Warm Fuzzies in here instead of Cold Pricklies
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Re: Dwarf Fortress Furries (2)
« Reply #164 on: May 16, 2013, 05:02:48 pm »

Maybe if it was called something like Fuzzy

That way we could have some Warm Fuzzies in here instead of Cold Pricklies
All of the synonyms I've seen used for "furry" are "fuzzies", "furs", "fluffies", and the subcategories like "scalies".
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