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Author Topic: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games  (Read 23239 times)

CaptainLambcake

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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2013, 09:52:09 pm »

mainstream:  attack bad guy, get wounded, miraculously survive and kill him!
DF: attack bad guy, get crippled, attempt to flee, die.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2013, 12:02:39 pm »

mainstream: ThisGameTheFirst$60 (Awesome with a lot of "first time seeing this" cool stuff), ThisGameTheSecond$60 (what happened with all the cool stuff?!?!), ThisGameTheThird$60 ( same old s . . . ), ThisGameTheThirdThePrequel$60 (including the old s . . . but now with extra DLC! Each for $59.99+. Don't want DLC, then you will miss 3/4 of the game(because we cut it off to have it as DLC hahaha))

DF: Always getting better, bigger, and dwarfier, and still going strong. Lots of FUN!
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2013, 10:17:43 pm »

Mainstream: Realistic games are unrealistically drab and grey, artsy-fartsy games have one or two dominant colors.

DF: An icon's color is sometimes a vague jab at what it would actually be, most of the time it's just a way to tell masons from carpenters.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2013, 11:18:57 pm »

"Mainstream" games: The water is ice because the level is the ice world.

DF: The water is ice because the in-game temperature dropped low enough that the game calculated the water to be frozen, instantly obliterating any and all organic matter that happened to be floating in it. Oh hey, you were swimming at the time, weren't you?

"Mainstream" games: Linear story! Plot armour! A half hour of opening cinematics!

Roguelikes: Hit play. Reach character creation page. Make character. Start playing. Die. Repeat.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2013, 11:21:04 pm »

I know its old but I came across it again and this thread fits it.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2013, 04:05:52 pm »

Mainstream games: We promised full character customization, so here's three models for you to choose from.

DF: I promised hairstyles, so I implemented physics for hair, fur, feathers and quills. Hair grows, gets tangled and greasy if unwashed. You can also make knots and weave for example a straw hat if you're so inclined.

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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2013, 04:14:46 pm »

Can't make stray hats... yet. Or choose people's styles :(

Getting there, though!

Mainstream: We want people to play our game. Better advertise somehow.

DF: A playerbase trickles in slowly but surely, from those who hear hushed whispers and knowing laughs in the annals of the internet.

"Devlog: so today some people just started playing my game. Weird. They seen to be multiplying."
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2013, 07:25:34 am »

STRAY hats?!  Do they adopt an owner?
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2013, 08:16:19 am »

STRAY hats?!  Do they adopt an owner?

No, but you can butcher them for hat meat and hat bones. And train Stray war hats.

Mainstream games: This is a bug! I want my money back and the developers to fix this!

DF: This is a bug! How we could effectively weaponize it?
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2013, 01:27:57 am »

Mainstream:

The world revolves around you
Nothing happens without you
You cannot kill a lot of the characters especially if they are part of the story
The world is dead and static after the story is complete
Realism can vary but tries to be easy on the player; difficulty progression, levels of enemies
Game is "mapped out" by the developers

Dwarf Fortress:

You are just some random person who is unimportant and just part of the world
Events will be able to happen without you in the next release
Kill whoever you want, whenever you want
Story never ends, world continues even after you die
Tries to be as realistic as possible and simulate many different aspects. No difficulty progression, no mercy for the player
World is randomly generated; Enemies are never spawned somewhere for you to kill they are there based on what they actually did during history

These are just a few things I can think of. But one of things I love about DF is that Npcs actually live their own lives and do as they please, in the future this will get even better and more realistic as it happens during actual play. It reminds of the A-life in the Stalker games, which basically was that the Npcs would travel throughout the map on their own with their own goals to give a feeling that the zone was alive.

Another thing that I hate in most games is the respawning enemies. DF kinda has that but they are just pulled from the area's population, but I hope it gets better.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2013, 08:13:13 am »

Mainstream:
Costs money. Creators whines about pirates.
"Infinite gameplay? What is it?"
Your computer can handle nice 3D graphic.

Dwarf Fortress:
Free. Creator gets nice amount of money in donations.
"Finite gameplay? What is it?"
Probably your computer can't handle a bunch of ASCII characters.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2013, 06:22:39 pm »

Mainstream: A powerful bonus boss is defeated and you never see them agin.

DF: That severed llama head reanimates three years later and spell the doom of your great fortress.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2013, 03:23:55 am »

FPS: Skull is tissue paper, even with knife or rifle butt

Dwarf Fortress: Skull is tissue paper, even with weakling's bare fist or balsa wood weapon.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2013, 03:31:16 pm »

Mainstream: You're the guy that was foretold in the prophecies that will save the world!
DF: You're a common person that suddenly pulled off a global genocide. Or at least a local goblin one.
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Re: Dwarf fortress in Comparison to Other Games
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2013, 04:57:10 pm »

Mainstream: You're the guy that was foretold in the prophecies that will save the world!
DF: You're a common person that suddenly pulled off a global genocide. Or at least a local elven one.

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