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[Enzo]

Just beat Chuck Norris with 700 hp, level 7 summon sword.

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Got stuck behind yggdrasil and spammed earthquake scrolls. Get on my level.

[GalenEvil]

Damn, now I guess I'll have to go play through hard mode heh

[Neonivek]

Hell would be REALLY easy if it didn't have that control bug.

Since with the Summon sword the most difficult part are the Demons (As ghosts and Fireballs are easily delt with)

[scrdest]

Just beat Chuck Norris with 700 hp, level 7 summon sword.

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Got stuck behind yggdrasil and spammed earthquake scrolls. Get on my level.

If you time it well, he can be beaten with just Invul + Tele (summon sword, a bit under 400 HP), with a Fire scroll near the very end to hasten his demise.

Hell would be REALLY easy if it didn't have that control bug.

Since with the Summon sword the most difficult part are the Demons (As ghosts and Fireballs are easily delt with)

The first part is basically Frogger, you need to skip between the free spaces between demons. What did you do with Fireballs though?

[Neonivek]

What did you do with Fireballs though?

With the Summon sword the fireballs are easy, you can just outright combat them while spamming healing. If I had the Firesword though the key is to beat that hallway before you even get up to the fireballs (Invulnerability to Seed to another Invulnerability can get you through the demons quickly). The undead rush the ghosts are easier so go to the top or bottom even if it means you waste time, and use potions.

Meaning you have to beat down the ghosts, so you need the Imp.

If you had the heal sword I don't know... You can beat the Devil before he kills you if you invulnerable right before him.

Now everything after hell is quite a bit unfair.

[Leonon]

On the topic of Best Sword, I have brought Math.

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Life Sword 14dmg
Gain Sword Level+1 life per kill

Summon Sword 14dmg

50% chance of summon per kill by PC

1 Imp 16-25HP 5dmg
2 Orc 30HP 6dmg
3 Draugr 35HP 7dmg
4 Chupacabra 30HP 11dmg
5 Golem 100HP 7dmg
6 Chimera 51-57HP 14dmg
7 Candy Monster 115HP 11dmg
8 Candy Monster 120HP 12dmg
9+ Every level adds 5 HP, Every other level adds 1 dmg



Flame Sword 16 dmg
+half of sword level
1/3 chance additional +sword level*3

Essentially
The Flame Sword gains 1.5 damage per level if you consider the randomness and damage gain to cancel each other out
The Summon Sword is all over the place before LVL 8 then gains 5HP and .5dmg per level
The Life Sword Sucks

Here's an example of the damage disparity.


Guard 25HP 7dmg
Knight 70HP 10dmg

lvl34 to one hit guard with summon
lvl18 to one hit guard with flame

1/3 chance to one hit guard with lvl 3 flame


1/3 chance to one hit Chuck Norris with lvl 282 flame

With the invincibility>teleport>seed method Flame Sword is definitely best, though you may need several seeds at higher levels.
Summon Sword starts out strong but eventually gets overshadowed by Flame Sword. What level it gets surpassed depends on what you're fighting.
Don't get Life Sword. Just don't.

[Neonivek]

The major issue with the summon sword if I had to give one is that its major use is circumvented by Imp.

Also yeah now that I tested out a healing sword... WOW is it terrible.

I know I was harsh on the summoning sword... but the healing sword makes even that seem amazing by comparison.

Fireball sword is still the best in my opinion, but at least the summoning sword isn't the healing sword.

[scrdest]

What did you do with Fireballs though?

Now everything after hell is quite a bit unfair.

Beating youself is pretty easy, if costly, and is pretty much healing potion spam. Chuck Norris can be beaten via tree and ranged spam or tele+inv as you mentioned. Developer's Garden is easy if you don't take risks with invul's time and have enough Teleports. Moat has no enemies to speak of, so it's mostly a puzzle. Developer's Computer is the end boss, it is not supposed to be easy.

[Neonivek]

Beating youself is pretty easy, if costly

Yeah but as I always review, if you couldn't do it without a guide then it is a fault. (I don't care how the internet reviews its games. My reviews are based on being guideless)

It just pops out of nowhere. After yourself the next two levels are fair (Sorta, due to how it is set up it is slightly unfair), then another unfair level (admittingly not as bad as Yourself)

It is mostly set up as a "You will EVENTUALLY unlock it" but that can be hours or even days if hell took you excessively long (which anyone who took a healing sword probably does)

Best of all due to the way how the game works, it is easy to actually succeed on the boss but lose anyway.

Developer's Computer is the end boss, it is not supposed to be easy

I have had less trouble on him then on hell and can even grind him. Knowing how to beat him however... is another story.

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Oddly I am using my Point and Click Standards on this game. For Candy Box I may let that slide since it seems less like, for example FTL, a game where its poor design choices are meant to be ignored because of the availability of guides... but rather that Candy Box is meant to be played with a guide or a collection of friends.

[frostshotgg]

I don't get what the hell everyone's problem with yourself was. Just visit the damn witch.

[scrdest]

I don't get what the hell everyone's problem with yourself was. Just visit the damn witch.

The problem is, you have to figure out you are supposed to visit the witch with nothing else hinting at it. It's a Solve the Soup Cans kind of logic - if you figure it out, it's probably just your good luck that you happened to visit her for some other reason.

[a1s]

I don't get what the hell everyone's problem with yourself was. Just visit the damn witch.

The problem is, you have to figure out you are supposed to visit the witch with nothing else hinting at it. It's a Solve the Soup Cans kind of logic - if you figure it out, it's probably just your good luck that you happened to visit her for some other reason.

Which you do all the time (several times a day, anyway) to upgrade your sword, so I'm not sure what your complaint here is. It's not like you needed to visit the frog.

[scrdest]

I don't get what the hell everyone's problem with yourself was. Just visit the damn witch.

The problem is, you have to figure out you are supposed to visit the witch with nothing else hinting at it. It's a Solve the Soup Cans kind of logic - if you figure it out, it's probably just your good luck that you happened to visit her for some other reason.

Which you do all the time (several times a day, anyway) to upgrade your sword, so I'm not sure what your complaint here is. It's not like you needed to visit the frog.

Well, perhaps you play like that. When the cost went up to over 1 million lollipops, which was some time before I beat Hell, I haven't been visiting her at all, and only beat myself thanks to this thread.

[Rose]

I kept upgrading my sword even when it costed 10 million.

[a1s]

I kept upgrading my sword even when it costed 10 million.

+1. And candy gain, you have to upgrade the candy gain, since the game isn't called Lollipop Box, or even HP box.