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[Meph]

We are talking Putnams DF drows here But I think having some clear guidelines from DnD isnt all too bad

somehow starting in the cavern level would be "realistic"

I talked with expwnent about this, a possible solution would be a teleport of the wagon, all items in it and the 7 embark guys down into the first cavern, using a script that runs automatically once at embark. Migrants/caravans would still arrive on the surface though...

[Fairin]

salvatore quite literately wrote the book on drow, at least the accepted version =P .. ebberron drow drive me nuts.


could you bring back the concubines for this one meph, but instead of dwarves make them goblin / orc  slaves? since they could be assigned labors in therapist they would work well for slaves

[Meph]

No. Not because of the reason I stated before, but because concubines have been a dwarven caste. The orc/goblin slave you talk of would need to be a drow caste, which means that can become nobles, marry, give children to happy little drow babies, and normal drow parents have a small chance of giving birth to a orc/goblin slave, regardless on one of them actually being on the map or not.

Also, dont ask me, ask Putnam

I think the whole slavery thing is more for the goblin race plugin, since they kidnap people in vanilla DF anyway.

[Putnam]

No, I like drow slaves.

Concubines... eeech.

[Fairin]

stop getting all green in the face at the word concubines.. ><

i was meaning the creature file created for them. making "pets" that could do labor just like any other dwarf

except make these "pets" goblins and orcs" for the manual labor for the drow fort =)

they could be .. a "drow caste" but discription could read out as goblin... or orc

is there a no marry tag? drow arent into stable relationships with each other unless it benefits them =)

[Putnam]

That would count under "slaves" :V

Also, yeah, I can't mess with marriage, unfortunately.

[Meph]

Fairin, A: Toady forbid it, and B: A drow husband and a drow wife could give birth to an orc slave baby. Thats the two reasons it wont happen.

[Godlysockpuppet]

Fairin, A: Toady forbid it, and B: A drow husband and a drow wife could give birth to an orc slave baby. Thats the two reasons it wont happen.

Seriously, the community found ethical issues in embarking with concubines? Did toady really ask for them to be removed? Wow.... Just... Wow hahaha I always thought they're pretty PG.

[Teneb]

Fairin, A: Toady forbid it, and B: A drow husband and a drow wife could give birth to an orc slave baby. Thats the two reasons it wont happen.

Seriously, the community found ethical issues in embarking with concubines? Did toady really ask for them to be removed? Wow.... Just... Wow hahaha I always thought they're pretty PG.

It's not the community itself. It's that having concubines and such reflects badly on DF as a whole to those not of the community, and that's bad.

[Putnam]

Also, I find them personally distasteful, so I say no-go.

[mavj96]

I my self have no issue, if we're not going to have a problem with children having their eyes eaten out by undead thralls I don't see why we'd care about sex slaves, seems to me they make perfect sense; as far as the Drow go however I don't really see them having female sex slaves considering they are more of a matriarchy no?

[Putnam]

The matriarchy is pretty important and I'm not going into too much detail about why I find concubines distasteful.

[mavj96]

Differ in life events and brain makeup, bothers me not.

Either way I don't think concubines make any sense for a Drow mod seeing as how you only theoretically need one male to impregnate a significant amount of females AND the Drow are matriarchal.

[Fairin]

change name to indentured servant . problem solved.

really liked the feature, -.-

[layback]

change name to indentured servant . problem solved.

really liked the feature, -.-

what exactly did these concubines DO that made them so controversial?