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[Nokao]

Don't know if this has already been suggested,
but elves COULD actually build wood walls by planting seeds and waiting for the hedge to come up.

Slower, but harmless.

This is actually an idea that could be evolved to "build" (litterally plant) forts, if only you could create a more z-level or "z-level growing" structure with the graphics of a wood pillar.

It's also what we are doing here in Italy: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/ARTE_SELLA_-_la_cattedrale_vegetale_(di_Giuliano_Mauri)_2002_.JPG
Takes only 20 years of good waiting.

[smakemupagus]

I don't think any of that is actually possible.  Creatures can path through farm plots no problem.

la_cattedrale_vegetale is very cool though

[Meph]

No, but elves could get their own tileset, or custom buildings that look like trees, and are impassable.

[smakemupagus]

Yeah, but, meh.

[Meph]

 

Then make steeloak treants that cant attack, are unkillable like sponges, and pasture them in a wall-like way. And only the special axe-wielding invaders get an interaction to kill them 

[smakemupagus]

Now, there we are getting somewhere 

[Dwarf_Eater]

I would like to see instead furnances, tree buildings for elves. Trading for seeds instead of blueprints for more advanced buildings. Some of them could use dfhack checking if water is underneath, so players would embark near rivers and do irrigation for their workshops to work. Magma safe tree furnance wouldn't hurt either
There could be also some kind of elven tree HQ, which would be somewhat costy, but it could produce seeds (blueprints) for workshops. Reactions could also then require some organic matter or fertillizer for tree workshops to bear fruits.

[smakemupagus]

>> Magma safe tree furnance

 
wait what?

>> Some of them could use dfhack checking if water is underneath

That's kind of interesting.  Can someone point me to the instructions for that?
Or like, anything else it can do in that sort of area.  Outdoors check?  Light check?

[Meph]

Magma underneath it, yes. Water underneath, yes. Outside only, yes. There are no actual scripts for this, but the code exists in other parts, like the steam engine. It would be possible, easily so, for someone to write fitting ones that hook into the workshop. I think it was armist (or ag) I talked with about the outdoor only thing, for the expedition starting point.

[Nokao]

Edit: divided idea between ELF/DROW topics

Elves should be limited in their metal industry. Ironwood and variants is the way to go.

Is it possible to deny Elves to dig, and make them use tamed giant moles to dig ?

[Isngrim]

edit* maybe a reaction that uses dfhack to "purify" the local map,so a player could embark on a haunted map and turn it mirthful over time?

Thanks for the idea!  Is "purify" a DFHack that exists or just brainstorming?  (i have no capability of writing such a thing or even of evaluating whether it is possible)

just an idea.
was hoping putnam would say it was easy, 'cause it would be great for the revanant civ as well.

[Putnam]

I'll take a look.

[Deinos]

Considering the whole elf/drow split, it would be really nifty if cave adapted elves became drow, and crazed to boot.

[smakemupagus]

I am afraid that CRAZED would cause an auto loyalty spiral, but we can play around with it

[Deinos]

I'm sure there's gotta be SOME way to make your dudes turn into freakish evil mutants full of spiders. I distinctly recall a surprise necromancer attack from one of my dorfs before.