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[Broseph Stalin]

Broseph: Ups, forgot about the pentagram, I was testing the ITEM_SYMBOL. But dirt/peat should work, I have used both successfully. I even embarked with 100 dirt once (because its free) to build a quick dirt-wall around me.

Clean install, touched no settings, embarked with 20 dirt, attempted to construct wall, "Needs Building Material Non-Economic Item"

[ElenaRoan]

are the Chemist and Alchemist supposed to not require a blueprint?

[Meph]

Yes, chemist and alchemist are workshops, not in the furnace menu.

Broseph Stalin: Mh... I just embarked with dirt and it works. But you are right that it does not show up in the stone menu... but I can make constrctions from it, both with peat and dirt.

[Szarrukin]

Fire from embark, with odd barrel materials = That sounds like duplicate raws. What did you do? Please check your errorlog for the word "DUPLICATE"

Errorlog: nothing with duplicate. I've turned off all "harder XXX" and all "more XXX" in settings, that's all I've done before embark.

[Meph]

Could you post the errorlog please?

[Broseph Stalin]

Broseph Stalin: Mh... I just embarked with dirt and it works. But you are right that it does not show up in the stone menu... but I can make constrctions from it, both with peat and dirt.

I just made a new embark on the same exact world in the same exact clean install, now I can build with dirt and peat but not with clay.

I'm positive this isn't just me mistaking one for the other because I had to modify Burn Fine Black Bricks to accept peat, it was being treated as economic and the reaction wouldn't take them.

[Meph]

Thats odd. I know that something is economic as soon as I have a rection that specifically asks for that stone... there is none for dirt. There are some for clay and peat, which means that they should be economic, both of them.

[Broseph Stalin]

Thats odd. I know that something is economic as soon as I have a rection that specifically asks for that stone... there is none for dirt. There are some for clay and peat, which means that they should be economic, both of them.

In my current fortress (Not Clean) I can build with clay but not with peat and not with dirt. I remember having used CHANGELAYER in my dirty world but testing in my clean world can't replicate a create a situation where clay is used but peat and dirt are not through DFhack.

Edit:  Okay so I found an embark in my clean world where I can build with clay/fireclay but not with peat/dirt. I'm going to copy the save and start a new embark in the same world where I can build with peat/dirt but not clay/fireclay. Even if it doesn't help you it will prove that the giraffe is wrong and I'm not going crazy.

Double Edit: I found a second embark in the same world where peat/clay/fireclay are used but not dirt. Uploading to DFFD

[Meph]

No, you are not crazy, it appears to be random. Apani, who mods the soils atm, did check. Same problem.

I can try adding IS_STONE to them, hopefully they appear in the list and you can toggle the economic/non-economic.

[Broseph Stalin]

No, you are not crazy, it appears to be random. Apani, who mods the soils atm, did check. Same problem.

I can try adding IS_STONE to them, hopefully they appear in the list and you can toggle the economic/non-economic.

That's fortunate because the sun would have burned out before my campus internet connection finished uploading a few thousand kb.

[Apani]

Also, does it mean anything if an item is between parenthesis or not?

[Meph]

Usually this means forbidden.

[Broseph Stalin]

Usually this means forbidden.

Brackets are forbidden, parentheses means it wasn't produced in the fortress.

[Broseph Stalin]

Make Wicker Table is missing a reagent.

[Meph]

Fixed, thanks. That bug must have been in there for almost a year... and no one mentioned free tables? ^^