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Should Scaleplate/Chitinplate/Shellplate reduced to "Scale/Chitin/Shell", and "Rigid X-plate" to "X-plate". It would shorten names a lot.

Yes. Text gets cut off too often.
No. I dont care/like the names as they are.
Dont you have anything better to do then making such tiny adjustements?

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Re: [DWARF] - Discussion and Suggestions - NEW POLL
« Reply #210 on: June 14, 2013, 06:18:09 pm »

Wow, new version! I have been waiting for this release for so long. So excited now! Thanks Meph and, please, don't drown. :P

I second this, drowning is not allowed.
Meph you must mod yourself with [NOBREATHE]
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« Reply #211 on: June 14, 2013, 06:31:16 pm »

The first time I went rafting on the upper Kennebec in Maine the CFS (cubic feet per second) was 12000. Normally, it would be 4800. I think I probably felt like Meph did. I was NOT prepared. Survival instincts kicked in, its probably the only time in my life that I've actually felt the rush of being in such a dangerous situation. It was insane. Subsequent rafting trips have never recaptured that feeling.

But yeah, congrats on your first (only?) run.  8) Back to your regularly scheduled topic.
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« Reply #212 on: June 14, 2013, 07:17:32 pm »

Ok another quickie question.

So I'm trying to use the Blood of Armok to create magma, I have at least two of the gems, and plenty of flasks....why isn't the Alchemist's Chambers letting me make magmaflask?
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« Reply #213 on: June 14, 2013, 08:04:02 pm »

Ok another quickie question.

So I'm trying to use the Blood of Armok to create magma, I have at least two of the gems, and plenty of flasks....why isn't the Alchemist's Chambers letting me make magmaflask?

It's a rough Blood of Armok, right?  Not a cut one?

Where are the gems right now?  There are various ways an item can be considered inaccessible by a workshop... I suggest sticking them in a stockpile right next to the workshop with no bins allowed, just to be sure.
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« Reply #214 on: June 14, 2013, 08:19:19 pm »

...why isn't the Alchemist's Chambers letting me make magmaflask?

The AC fills the flasks but they have to be made first in another workshop (glass, metal, whatever).  For any reaction that is "redded out" and not working, you can click on it and see just what is required.
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« Reply #215 on: June 14, 2013, 08:43:21 pm »

...why isn't the Alchemist's Chambers letting me make magmaflask?

The AC fills the flasks but they have to be made first in another workshop (glass, metal, whatever).  For any reaction that is "redded out" and not working, you can click on it and see just what is required.

Yeah I know that you have to make the flasks first, I have like 60 of the things lying around, and at least two blood of armok. Those are the only two ingredients, is this hopelessly bugged?
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« Reply #216 on: June 14, 2013, 08:45:32 pm »

burrows bug?

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putting aside possible chance of user error (broken stockpile links, etc.); there is an occasional pathfinding bug in all custom reactions including those in vanilla DF. It is  usually (not always) triggered when the stockpile and workshop are in separate burrows, even if the burrows are inactive.  You can rearrange burrows, or have the manager run the reaction.  After 1 time the manager does it the workshop often becomes normally active again.

Having the Manager attempt the reaction is usually a good thing to try, because if it is not the pathfinding bug, you'll often get a helpful error message.

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« Reply #217 on: June 14, 2013, 09:08:51 pm »

[Yeah I know that you have to make the flasks first, I have like 60 of the things lying around, and at least two blood of armok. Those are the only two ingredients, is this hopelessly bugged?

Another possibility: are you sure they're lying around?  (The burrows thing does sound most likely, have you tried AC taking from a designated stockpile?)  Tab-zoom from the stocks screen (although they should be color coded); I once had an unexpected shortage of flasks for magma when all my squads decided they liked those better than waterskins.  I thought I had plenty, none were available.  Otherwise ... something similar once happened to me and after getting lots of advice from folks about things I'd already tried that just weren't working, the only thing that "fixed" it was to d/l a clean copy of MW.  Somewhat surprisingly, it accepted the saved region without the problem. 
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« Reply #218 on: June 14, 2013, 10:57:15 pm »

...why isn't the Alchemist's Chambers letting me make magmaflask?

The AC fills the flasks but they have to be made first in another workshop (glass, metal, whatever).  For any reaction that is "redded out" and not working, you can click on it and see just what is required.

Yeah I know that you have to make the flasks first, I have like 60 of the things lying around, and at least two blood of armok. Those are the only two ingredients, is this hopelessly bugged?

Check where exactly the Blood of Armoks are.  If a dwarf is carrying them around (say in a bin, to pick up more gems), they won't be available for reactions.  The same goes for the flasks, though it's unlikely that all 60 will be stuck in hauling jobs at once.

[Yeah I know that you have to make the flasks first, I have like 60 of the things lying around, and at least two blood of armok. Those are the only two ingredients, is this hopelessly bugged?

Another possibility: are you sure they're lying around?  (The burrows thing does sound most likely, have you tried AC taking from a designated stockpile?)  Tab-zoom from the stocks screen (although they should be color coded); I once had an unexpected shortage of flasks for magma when all my squads decided they liked those better than waterskins.  I thought I had plenty, none were available.  Otherwise ... something similar once happened to me and after getting lots of advice from folks about things I'd already tried that just weren't working, the only thing that "fixed" it was to d/l a clean copy of MW.  Somewhat surprisingly, it accepted the saved region without the problem.

Waterskins work just fine for magmabottles.  I know because that's what I made all of my magmabottles out of...
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« Reply #219 on: June 15, 2013, 06:30:29 am »

Waterskins work just fine for magmabottles.  I know because that's what I made all of my magmabottles out of...
No kidding?  I looked in the raws but didn’t find what I expected.  So, dwarves need netherwood shields for hellfire, dragonfire and the Colosseum but leather waterskins are maga-safe?  Truly, this be a funny, funny game.
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« Reply #220 on: June 15, 2013, 10:20:37 am »

The shield material shouldn't matter, as long as the dwarf has a decent enough shield skill.
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« Reply #221 on: June 15, 2013, 11:53:53 am »

"Check where exactly the Blood of Armoks are.  If a dwarf is carrying them around (say in a bin, to pick up more gems), they won't be available for reactions.  The same goes for the flasks, though it's unlikely that all 60 will be stuck in hauling jobs at once."

I already checked for that, ones lying right in the main stockpile, beckoning me with sweet unfulfilled promises of not having to dig through caverns to obtain magma, don't know where the other one is

Another possibility: are you sure they're lying around?  (The burrows thing does sound most likely, have you tried AC taking from a designated stockpile?)  Tab-zoom from the stocks screen (although they should be color coded); I once had an unexpected shortage of flasks for magma when all my squads decided they liked those better than waterskins.  I thought I had plenty, none were available.  Otherwise ... something similar once happened to me and after getting lots of advice from folks about things I'd already tried that just weren't working, the only thing that "fixed" it was to d/l a clean copy of MW.  Somewhat surprisingly, it accepted the saved region without the problem.
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I only have one squad, and yes they really do love those flasks, but I don't think that would be it.

I'll check for the burrows thing once I have time.

Oh and on an unrelated note, I got a baby that transformed into a evil sorcerer....that was funny.
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« Reply #222 on: June 15, 2013, 12:29:19 pm »

Ok so my alchemist decided to go into a strange mood (and a useless possession no less) and he tried to use the BLOOD OF ARMOK....I put a stop to that...turns out I only have the one...

Oh well, after he brought it down I'm able to make magmaflasks so I guess it musta been the stockpile thing, he fixed whatever was wrong so even though he made a useless wood artifact with a more useless possession, he lives.

.....wtf? I just completed it, put it in the liquid spawner, and deconstructed it.....and I got a tiny splattering of 1s
I WAS PROMISED INFINITE MAGMA DAMMIT!
fuck that was useless
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« Reply #223 on: June 15, 2013, 01:14:10 pm »

.....wtf? I just completed it, put it in the liquid spawner, and deconstructed it.....and I got a tiny splattering of 1s
I WAS PROMISED INFINITE MAGMA DAMMIT!
fuck that was useless

The Blood of Armok isn't used up by the reaction, so you can use it to generate unlimited magma by running the reaction repeatedly (it does use up a lot of flasks, though).

If you're careful, you should only need one magmabottle per furnace.  A magmabottle contains enough magma to generate six tiles of 7/7 magma, if there's enough space, and a furnace only needs one tile.
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« Reply #224 on: June 15, 2013, 01:26:13 pm »

I WAS PROMISED INFINITE MAGMA DAMMIT!
fuck that was useless

i would be a lot more inclined to spend time explaining to you how to use it otherwise  ::)

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