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Author Topic: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)  (Read 138860 times)

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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #210 on: January 14, 2014, 11:25:49 am »

Dude, assholes are assholes. It happens in every game, that doesn't make the game an asshole. If you're miffed enough about it google search Shores of Hazeron and post complaining in every public forum you find... I unno man, can't you just kill 'em in-game instead?
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #211 on: January 14, 2014, 11:32:16 am »

A normal day in Shores of Hazeron:
http://hazeron.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6292

The community is the most anti-Semitic i ever saw in a game. Nationalism and racism is favorite topic for most of the players.
It goes no hour without any "jew-/ gas-/ etc jokes" in the gamechat.
The stand of the developers to this? : "we believe in freedom of speech" (Ikkir Isth)
So this is the american "freedom of speech"?!

Avoid this anit-semitic game!

I last played SoH six months ago and in-game chat was extremely polite and fun. There have always been one or two people making "edgy" alt empires, but in my experience it was nowhere near "most of the players".

Has the playerbase really changed that greatly after the reset?

EDIT: With the whole "So this is the american "freedom of speech"?! Avoid this anit-semitic game!" quote, I can't help but get the vibe that this fellow is the creator of the linked thread and is trying to milk controversy.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 11:38:00 am by PrimusRibbus »
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #212 on: January 14, 2014, 11:41:27 am »

A normal day in Shores of Hazeron:
http://hazeron.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=6292
You do realize that that looks like a joke, right? Everyone there is mocking it anyway, not feeding the machine.

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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #213 on: January 14, 2014, 11:47:00 am »

Öhm no iam not the creator, dafuq?

If you see the ingame chat, yes: most of the players support or tolerate this shit.

http://hazeron.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6290 So...? Not?

The "So this is the american "freedom of speech"?!" is a hint to Ikkir Isth phrase "we believe in freedom of speech".

But yes, sadly the playerbase changed in the last year / months. I play SoH since 3 years, every year some weeks. I know, there are allways some idiots and the most was polite and fun. But this changed sadly.

Are you that opinion that all these should tolerated by admins / devs or players? This is going way to far.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #214 on: January 14, 2014, 09:35:54 pm »

There is one simple solution. Get a battlefleet and nuke them until they shut up.
http://hazeron.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6252
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #215 on: January 14, 2014, 11:37:57 pm »

... you can't shut someone up by nuking them, unless you troll them so hard they cry themselves right off the game.

They can always just reroll somewhere else and keep talking. SoH has no real rules other than "Don't upset Haxus' wife," so if you want to get them kicked off the game, find a way to bring the nazis in his game (and the fact that he is letting them broadcast their propaganda all over the game) to his wife's attention. Somehow. Don't ask me how. Or just ask him what his wife would think, maybe that would work. vOv
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #216 on: January 15, 2014, 03:40:09 am »

... you can't shut someone up by nuking them, unless you troll them so hard they cry themselves right off the game.

I doubt they will listen to you when you kindly say "please be quiet you are ruining the game" or something like that. A much more effective method to stop the galaxy bullshit is to tell them to shut up personally while pointing a bunch of nuclear weaponry at their cities.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #217 on: January 15, 2014, 05:04:35 am »

It is really sad. Kids do not realise that some of this shit happened Not too long ago.
People who has been there still alive. Just sad.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #218 on: January 15, 2014, 05:15:44 am »

Slight agreement with you. Also, the way they solved the problem was through WAR, so there you go. Maybe there's already an Alliance of Anti-Bullshit? You could join it.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #219 on: January 15, 2014, 09:12:36 am »

This is Ikkir Isth: More specifically, I believe in freedom of speech as such as people have the rights to make 'Space Nazis' as an empire or whatever, as long as they keep their racism and exterminatus to in-game stuff.  The real problem right now is the actual racism, hate speech, and garbage being spewed in galactic chat (and did I see a few death threats too?), which I currently don't have any power over (and I've told Haxus about the problems so far and its kind of difficult to fix what with the incredible ease of making characters and new accounts within minutes).   

More specifically though, Haxus is too busy putting out the fires in the playground to clean out the shit in the sandbox.  If you want him to try to slip that in soon, give him a call/contact him as I got to move onto other stuff.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #220 on: January 15, 2014, 12:08:45 pm »

I'd like to draw a parallel to tabletop gaming: If you have a player who's always insulting or otherwise bothering your other players, then you, as GM, have a responsibility to tell them they can't play if they don't knock it off, at the very least.

It's a simple issue: someone is playing the game in bad faith, specifically trying to bother other players. By making the game less fun for everyone else, he's actively disrupting the goals that Haxus has for the game.

This isn't a free speech issue; even if this was a "political statement," it would be ruled as hate speech, or possibly drunken raving.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #221 on: January 15, 2014, 01:23:22 pm »

SoH has no real rules other than "Don't upset Haxus' wife,"

Before anyone asks: After a particularily stupid turn of game design decisions and complaints on the forum thats exactly the one and only thing that got someone banned from shores.

Trolling trolls hard enough for them to ragequit is difficult at best, so I think Shadowlords suggestion is spot on here.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2014, 01:25:00 pm by Idranel »
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #222 on: January 15, 2014, 08:29:18 pm »

The game won't seem to load when I click "Enter Hazeron" after making my character. It's stuck at "Entering Hazeron" for ages.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #223 on: January 16, 2014, 12:46:45 am »

Tried reinstalling?
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #224 on: January 17, 2014, 11:41:07 pm »

Building destruction update: I advise shield bases covering everything, as even TL32 buildings can be shot to death with small arms fire otherwise (though it takes awhile and nearly full inventory worth of bullets, especially if they are vulcium).

A TL1 shield base (tested energy, not kinetic yet) is enough to make even TL1 buildings immune to small arms fire (though not to bombs, but it does at least make them resistant).
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