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[tryrar]

There's also one point that needs to be brought up: Nobody else seems to have deployed a tank, so we don't need to worry about upgrading our Badger weaponry right this minute. However, never hurts to look into the future...

What people seem to forget is that guns were typically designed specifically for a certain role. An AA gun was designed as an AA gun, an AT gun was designed for direct fire, a howitzer was designed for that role, and so on. It just so happened that some guns were actually pretty good in a different role in an emergancy, but there's no real such thing as a universal gun. Remember the saying "Jack of all trades, master of none", it definitely applies here! Even the germans simply didn't just install a flak 88 into their vehicles, they designed an anti-tank version of their gun. It might have been functionally the same gun, but they purpose-built the mountings, porbably redesigned the breech, and of course designed it to be much lighter than the AA version(for comparison, the 88mm Flak 36 was 7,407 kg, or 16,325 pounds! On the other hand, the Pak 43, the AT gun based off of it, was only 4,380 kg, or 9,700 pounds. Big difference there!)

What this rambling history lesson comes down to is I support a redesign of the 40mm that is an AT-version, to be mounted on a carriage AND to be installed in all current and future Badgers. This gun should serve as our main AT gun for a pretty long while

[Funk]

What this rambling history lesson comes down to is I support a redesign of the 40mm that is an AT-version, to be mounted on a carriage AND to be installed in all current and future Badgers. This gun should serve as our main AT gun for a pretty long while

+1

[Morrigi]

What this rambling history lesson comes down to is I support a redesign of the 40mm that is an AT-version, to be mounted on a carriage AND to be installed in all current and future Badgers. This gun should serve as our main AT gun for a pretty long while

+1

+1. And we still need to do something about our air defense capability, it would appear to be lacking.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

More machine-guns is all what we need for air defense

As for increasing weight of all our badgers... I am not sure about it

[Sensei]

I'm not sure if we need to redesign the 40mm gun, but 40mm high velocity rounds are a good plan.

It also wouldn't be out of the question to redesign our existing machinegun or make a new machinegun for aircraft, with a focus on low weight. We had the option when designing our Patriotism gun to make it shoot more bullets, weight 15 lbs instead of 30 or make it more reliable and we chose reliability. We could make a new air-cooled gun for airplanes and focus on weight instead, easily.

[Nadaka]

I'm not sure if we need to redesign the 40mm gun, but 40mm high velocity rounds are a good plan.

It also wouldn't be out of the question to redesign our existing machinegun or make a new machinegun for aircraft, with a focus on low weight. We had the option when designing our Patriotism gun to make it shoot more bullets, weight 15 lbs instead of 30 or make it more reliable and we chose reliability. We could make a new air-cooled gun for airplanes and focus on weight instead, easily.

Note: the weight is 30kg, i did initially post it in lbs, but that was in error and quickly changed it to kg. That puts it on the high end for an LMG, but similar to other water cooled MGs. Its light enough to be portable by 1 man, but would typically be carried by one man at each end for speed. It has an advantage over lighter air cooled MGs, which need removable barrels or limited firing duration to prevent barrels from warping and jamming due to the heat of sustained fire.

[Morrigi]

Work on improving it and look for a way around the problems of air cooling while still reducing the weight, and work on specialized AA mounts for them.

[Funk]

we can make the barrel thicker so it can take more heat be for it over heats, its not a cure but it should still save us a few KG.
maybe add copper fins to help.

but really only removable barrels will work for an air cooled MG.(plane should get the air follow need to cool them)

[Sensei]

If we really want, we could rig a system that resembles a gatling gun with only two or three barrels, and only switches barrels as needed (probably with the pilot just pulling a cable or lever). That could possibly be a better way to manage our weight.

[Doomblade187]

Planes have tendency to receive a lot of airflow, so I support the patriotism aircraft variant, probably air-cooled.

I also suggest a deployment manufacturing run of about 100 SVA-10s, so that we can get feedback, and also ask for feedback on our other designs, such as the badger.

And yes, PT boat is not a priority, so I suggest developing not just the engine for the air, but also an improved airframe, learning from all sources possible.

[Funk]

any air frame we build should have steel shields guarding the cockpit.
maybe a twin engine layout will help, it gives us 2X the horse power and a good weapon mounting place for four MGs.

maybe an air cooled plane engine, flat 8 about 3200cc, supercharged it should give us a good 140 hp ( if a beetle engine can power a plane, 4 should really get us going) 

[Nadaka]

Reviewing proposals...

I may need to implement a formal requirements for labeling and voting on proposals, so they don't get drowned by the general discussion.

[RAM]

Can we install observation balloons into aircraft as an emergency evacuation device?

[Brood]

(( Why? A big and extremely slow balloon? You'd get shot down by a guy with a pistol on the ground, let alone an enemy plane. ))

[RAM]

If you are over friendly terrain then you would hope to have more threatening things for them to shoot at. And if you are over enemy terrain then they may as well capture you. Having our pilots be unarmed and cooperative would seem reasonable, it is generally more trouble to keep a prisoner than a corpse, but folk still like prisoners for some reason...