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[tahujdt]

Everyone was talking about how it was hard to find everything in the neighborhoods, since they aren't labelled. That gave me an idea for having zoning laws be a side effect of pollution laws, where at C+ there will be factories next to schools, nuclear plants next to apartments, etc. At L+, everything is neatly organized and labelled.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

The ASCII videos won't work for me. Why?

I dunno. Do they work for anyone? They haven't worked when I'm debugging for ages, but I always just figured that was just specific to what I was doing in the debug environment, and it would clear up when doing releases. Maybe they're just broken?

Ran gdb:

Code: [Select]

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
Location::getname (this=0x411, shortname=shortname@entry=true, include_city=include_city@entry=false) at title/locations.cpp:104
104       if(this->front_business != -1)


If that's the line it's crashing on, then the "this" pointer isn't valid. Given the state of the shortname and include_city variables, and the state of the program's execution, it's likely that this is being called from line 117 of getname(), and the reason "this" isn't valid is because we're indexing into the location vector incorrectly. That means findlocation(city, city) isn't returning a valid location, and while it is allowed to do that, it should only be doing that if you're starting in a location that isn't in a city -- and there shouldn't be any such locations.

That's a matter of internal game logic, and should not vary between Windows and Linux. I've been working on installing Cygwin since yesterday in hopes that I might be able to emulate the issue, but it's a process that takes hours, and I've had to interrupt and restart it twice. In the mean time, does this happen every time you run the program? Have you tried recompiling? Do you have any ideas?

[ed boy]

The ASCII videos won't work for me. Why?

I dunno. Do they work for anyone? They haven't worked when I'm debugging for ages, but I always just figured that was just specific to what I was doing in the debug environment, and it would clear up when doing releases. Maybe they're just broken?

I wasn't aware that there was even supposed to be any ASCII videos. When are they meant to appear?

[Jonathan S. Fox]

The ASCII videos won't work for me. Why?

I dunno. Do they work for anyone? They haven't worked when I'm debugging for ages, but I always just figured that was just specific to what I was doing in the debug environment, and it would clear up when doing releases. Maybe they're just broken?

I wasn't aware that there was even supposed to be any ASCII videos. When are they meant to appear?

Mmm... special news stories, mainly. Police beatings, bright liberal guest on a conservative TV show, things like that.

[ed boy]

The ASCII videos won't work for me. Why?

I dunno. Do they work for anyone? They haven't worked when I'm debugging for ages, but I always just figured that was just specific to what I was doing in the debug environment, and it would clear up when doing releases. Maybe they're just broken?

I wasn't aware that there was even supposed to be any ASCII videos. When are they meant to appear?

Mmm... special news stories, mainly. Police beatings, bright liberal guest on a conservative TV show, things like that.

I get those form time to time, but they're more like a footnote to the game screen instead of a movie.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

The ASCII videos won't work for me. Why?

I dunno. Do they work for anyone? They haven't worked when I'm debugging for ages, but I always just figured that was just specific to what I was doing in the debug environment, and it would clear up when doing releases. Maybe they're just broken?

I wasn't aware that there was even supposed to be any ASCII videos. When are they meant to appear?

Mmm... special news stories, mainly. Police beatings, bright liberal guest on a conservative TV show, things like that.

I get those form time to time, but they're more like a footnote to the game screen instead of a movie.

Sounds like movies are broken and have been for years.

Good news, everyone! The game is supposed to have movies!

[Carlos Gustavos]

I get crashes on starting too. I haven't looked much at the new code but it looks to me like the member variable city for locations isn't being initialised. For the homeless shelter, city has the suspect value 1851850798. It gets that from its parent Industrial district and it gets it from its parent Seattle and it looks like Seattle would only have initialised the value if it was less than 0 (in the constructor for locations).

[Jonathan S. Fox]

I get crashes on starting too. I haven't looked much at the new code but it looks to me like the member variable city for locations isn't being initialised. For the homeless shelter, city has the suspect value 1851850798. It gets that from its parent Industrial district and it gets it from its parent Seattle and it looks like Seattle would only have initialised the value if it was less than 0 (in the constructor for locations).

Found, fixed, and committed. Thank you!

[Cheedows]

Wait, the game had movies?  It seems there could be broken content that we just assume is non-existent in the game

[Jonathan S. Fox]

Wait, the game had movies?  It seems there could be broken content that we just assume is non-existent in the game

Yes and exactly. The .cmv files in the art directory are movie files. They've probably been not loading or playing for years now, and people just didn't notice their absence, because who expects movies in an ASCII game?

But it's a Bay12Games ASCII game. There are movies in Star Zoo and Dwarf Fortress. Should it be so surprising that there are supposed to be movies in LCS too?

Edit: By "movies" I mean "animated ASCII cutscenes".

[SealyStar]

Wait, the game had movies?  It seems there could be broken content that we just assume is non-existent in the game

I seem to remember seeing the files in there. Could be wrong.

Well, that's interesting...

[Yannanth]

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[Jonathan S. Fox]

The search engine says .cmv is a CorelMove CorelDraw 4.0 file? Can this even be opened by any modern software? I very much doubt there's a library for it.

Gah, I can feel the digital dark age creeping in...

I believe that in this case the .cpc and .cmv files are in a format created by Tarn Adams, and the editor was never released.

On the plus side, the LCS source code includes the code needed to load, save, and render them, so they aren't black boxes, and it wouldn't be impossible to make an editor.

In related news, I got the movies playing on my machine.

[SealyStar]

Wait, the game had movies?  It seems there could be broken content that we just assume is non-existent in the game

Yes and exactly. The .cmv files in the art directory are movie files. They've probably been not loading or playing for years now, and people just didn't notice their absence, because who expects movies in an ASCII game?

But it's a Bay12Games ASCII game. There are movies in Star Zoo and Dwarf Fortress. Should it be so surprising that there are supposed to be movies in LCS too?

Edit: By "movies" I mean "animated ASCII cutscenes".

The search engine says .cmv is a CorelMove CorelDraw 4.0 file? Can this even be opened by any modern software? I very much doubt there's a library for it.

Gah, I can feel the digital dark age creeping in...

That's pretty outdated, man.

[tahujdt]

The search engine says .cmv is a CorelMove CorelDraw 4.0 file? Can this even be opened by any modern software? I very much doubt there's a library for it.

Gah, I can feel the digital dark age creeping in...

I believe that in this case the .cpc and .cmv files are in a format created by Tarn Adams, and the editor was never released.

On the plus side, the LCS source code includes the code needed to load, save, and render them, so they aren't black boxes, and it wouldn't be impossible to make an editor.

In related news, I got the movies playing on my machine.

I think a starting and ending movie/movies would be nice, if you know how to make them. Something like the starting for DF. You could have animations for C+ and L+ amendments, and the squad being wiped out.