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[Carp its whats for dinner]

what you want goes beyond Anti-Hero, it reaches a desire for a moral event horizon. I think this should be portrayed by her warring mental factions, with one being her desire for revenge, one her cruelty, and one her conscience

[jaass]

tend her wounds, wake her up, secretly whisper her an apology

^That is all I agree with
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In reality we are in the same position as her, while she is a prisoner physically but we are a prisoner mentally. However, we could of both been fed lies by our own societies on how these enemies are horrible monsters. This is where we can take our first true steps on how this war started and how these two major factions became bitter enemies.

Once she wakes up; "I am sorry, I am prisoner in my own mind. I have these compulsions to act on the Morey's will and hatred for everything that threatens them. It sometimes take a lot willpower to ignore these compulsion. All that I want know is how did this war even start and the best way to do it is hear from a Colonel..."

Edit: Get Ari out the room her bias won't help with this part

[RAM]

I really want to hear what brain friends have to say, possibly they are angry about all their friends getting roasted, possibly we are suffering from trauma and not aware of it, possibly we have torturer programming, whatever it was, we felt as though we were a bit too trigger-happy back there... Also, without some sort of story such as "temporarily mind controlled" or an offer such as "you are my pet now, stick with me and I will protect you" then the prisoner is unlikely to be our friend without a large time investment...

[3man75]

I really want to hear what brain friends have to say, possibly they are angry about all their friends getting roasted, possibly we are suffering from trauma and not aware of it, possibly we have torturer programming, whatever it was, we felt as though we were a bit too trigger-happy back there... Also, without some sort of story such as "temporarily mind controlled" or an offer such as "you are my pet now, stick with me and I will protect you" then the prisoner is unlikely to be our friend without a large time investment...

I agree especially if " "I am sorry, I am prisoner in my own mind. I have these compulsions to act on the Morey's will and hatred for everything that threatens them. It sometimes take a lot willpower to ignore these compulsion. All that I want know is how did this war even start and the best way to do it is hear from a Colonel..." is mentioned. I'm sorry but if i was the prisoner i'd think my captors a immature bastards who don't take responsibility. Clean up her wounds but leave her alone {except for using battle-net to get a guard to search her while she's naked. need to make sure she CAN't escape.}. We know that a Engineer squad is coming and that some more elite Val-tar's are uncounted for which may come back, as well as a counter attack from both sides. Thus i propose my last post about making sure this place is hell to take back and cake to defend.

[kahn1234]

((Update tomorrow)).

[Carp its whats for dinner]

apologize, say it was necessary due to Katia's comrades and that you were told the Slinkar were demonic bastards who took torture to a whole new world, but now that we have both points of view in one place without a fight going on, we can begin to plan a peace, but for this to succeed, we need to know the weaknesses in Val-Tar armor. Set the snipers in positions.
Planning for how to be god-queen can wait

[3man75]

apologize, say it was necessary due to Katia's comrades and that you were told the Slinkar were demonic bastards who took torture to a whole new world, but now that we have both points of view in one place without a fight going on, we can begin to plan a peace, but for this to succeed, we need to know the weaknesses in Val-Tar armor. Set the snipers in positions.
Planning for how to be god-queen can wait

Carp my problem is HOW?

"hey sorry we just cut your shit up and lived up to the steryotype of being sadistic bitches. We were told you were that way, wanna be freinds <3?"

It can't happen, if we get a chance with the vangaurd then ill say we can meta game but not bug/spider,scorpion/ things who we know even LESS now of. Can we call Ala shar btw? I'd like to yell at her for keeping us blind again.

[RAM]

We still don't know that we were mind controlled, or that this is anything but a Slinkar version of the vat-born. We know that we feel out-of-sorts about how we treated the prisoner, but there are plenty of psychological reasons for that sort of thing that can exist without deliberate conditioning, mind-altering chemicals in the food, and brain-friends giving us helpful advice...

[3man75]

We still don't know that we were mind controlled, or that this is anything but a Slinkar version of the vat-born. We know that we feel out-of-sorts about how we treated the prisoner, but there are plenty of psychological reasons for that sort of thing that can exist without deliberate conditioning, mind-altering chemicals in the food, and brain-friends giving us helpful advice...

not completely true i feel. Morey are also humanoids and this slinkarr had the rank of colonel. For those of you don't know that's the highest feild grade position AND the next highest rank would be a one star general {i want to say lieutenant general but not sure on U.S or European versions of rank}. BTW how do we know the Hive mind didn't just give us bad info to go on? or that she just lied? so much to think about lol...

[Carp its whats for dinner]

just apologize slowly, try to ask Ari how she knew of the slinkar torture system. befriending can come later, first tell the prisoner that she ought to cooperate or face more of what we gave her. defend the prisoner from the Morey, eventually try to make her forgive us, oversee healing and evac personally.

[3man75]

just apologize slowly, try to ask Ari how she knew of the slinkar torture system. befriending can come later, first tell the prisoner that she ought to cooperate or face more of what we gave her. defend the prisoner from the Morey, eventually try to make her forgive us, oversee healing and evac personally.

Carp you just said " eventually try to make her forgive us". Colonel's are one rank lower than generals and are known to be very patriotic individuals. We can't "oversee healing and evac personally" when our VERY own troops and sisters are suffering. Our character is going to have PREFERENCE of overseeing her own sisters than ONE pow. Besides i'm sure taking care of ourselves first is also indirectly assisting her since vanguard hate us equally it seems.

That said yes i would like to know Ari's story/input on this.

[Carp its whats for dinner]

khan, could Katia gain a level or two in mad prophet?

[3man75]

khan, could Katia gain a level or two in mad prophet?

Katia? i think we were Pandora right? or is that the english name we remember?

[kahn1234]

khan, could Katia gain a level or two in mad prophet?

((Mad Prophet? Maybe being a mad prophet would work ina medieval setting but i'm not sure about a sci fi setting.

On another note, I seem to be coming down with a cold (blocked nose, headaches, mild temperature etc) so i would appreciate it if someone could post a brief but details summary of the comments since the last update for me please so i can do the update tomorrow.

Currently, i am about to go to bed.))

[3man75]

khan, could Katia gain a level or two in mad prophet?

((Mad Prophet? Maybe being a mad prophet would work ina medieval setting but i'm not sure about a sci fi setting.

On another note, I seem to be coming down with a cold (blocked nose, headaches, mild temperature etc) so i would appreciate it if someone could post a brief but details summary of the comments since the last update for me please so i can do the update tomorrow.

Currently, i am about to go to bed.))

w.e mad prophet is lets save that for the drow suggestion game {which was pretty cool btw }

1. leave and tell our gaurds to search the captive colonel
2. also tell one of the gaurds to get her concious again by helping close up her wounds.
3. Tell ari to take some veterans out to make some pitfall traps using shovels and wooden stakes in the jungels. Have them 10 ft from landmines and use them to plug any paths a invader could use. If none can be found then just lay them out and make sure their covered nicely.
4. Tell ankara to see what the cannons need to fire again. If she knows exactl what and it can be scavenged in the base then to let us know.
5. Go to the wounded and show a good example by helping take care of the wounded.
6. Before Ari goes make sure we ask her input on that slinkarr colonel. Ask her what she thinks about her experiences and if High command is hiding something.
7. Make sure the snipers are looking out into the jungels for unknown movement. We can't let the enemy surprise us.