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[King Mir]

No harm in talking about it; if you don't want to, don't post in this thread. I've already given reasons why calling the game "alpha" is a poor excuse. No one's forcing Toady to do anything in this thread, where just talking about how important improving the UI is. Toady might read it, or he might not, no foul either way.

The game is in alpha. It is a fact. The game states that.

I know you guys are just talking about how important the UI is, and that's why I said it's beating a dead horse.  Because it has been said, and the same arguments have already been said. It's just repeating it. Maybe except for you claiming the game is not in alpha, that's new.

And yes, it is foul and it does harm. The purpose of repeating the same argument - without nothing new to it - despite already having an answer from the developer, the purpose of the OP creating a thread who doesn't do a suggestion but just complains he can't play the game without another UI is meant to put pressure on the developer to prioritize what some people want to see first. Toady clearly said he hates that and that's why it does harm.

Please, stop it.

If you don't care for the discussion here, please stop posting, instead of going into a meta discussion about it. I wouldn't mind clarifying why I think the development status of the project does not excuse the UI, but not if you're just here to say that it's not worth talking about anyway.

This thread does not put any more pressure on Toady to prioritize a particular feature than any other thread in this forum. I think Toady should prioritize it, but I'm not in any way pressuring him by saying that. Smeagol also expressed an honest feeling of being put off by the poor UI. How much Toady cares about what bothers players is his business, but this is the place to point out the problems and their extent.

[arkhometha]

If you don't care for the discussion here, please stop posting, instead of going into a meta discussion about it. I wouldn't mind clarifying why I think the development status of the project does not excuse the UI, but not if you're just here to say that it's not worth talking about anyway.

This thread does not put any more pressure on Toady to prioritize a particular feature than any other thread in this forum. I think Toady should prioritize it, but I'm not in any way pressuring him by saying that. Smeagol also expressed an honest feeling of being put off by the poor UI. How much Toady cares about what bothers players is his business, but this is the place to point out the problems and their extent.

And if you care for the forums, please take the discussion here:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=34949.msg534385#msg534385

And yes it does pressure, because there's already a place to discuss this subject and simply giving ye old arguments in another thread is a way to try and bring attention to what you want prioritized. Especially after the proper thread has already been pointed out. Especially after the developer already gave an answer many threads ago.
You want to discuss features, what could be and what you'd like to see, that's great and there's already a thread for it. Go there.

And no, I don't want to discuss UI here. If I wanted, I would go to the proper thread.

This is the place to post suggestions, not to make duplicate threads. OP had his answer and was pointed out to the proper thread, not to mention advised to lock the thread, since it is a duplicate. He can do it by going into the OP, hitting modify, expanding "Attachments and other options" and checking the "lock this thread" check-box, then saving.

[PeridexisErrant]

For people who need mouse support - and there seem to be quite a few on this thread - check out Falconne's mousequery plugin. 

He's done a fair few other UI improvement plugins too; I tend to take that as a good argument in favor of Toady doing what he wants (features, not UI), and letting players deal with it. 

Now can we stop demanding that the free game be more to our liking?!


(edit: fixed url tag overflow)