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[Undeadlord]

Is there a way to make clothing that doesn't break down? Something that can be edited in the RAWS? Or atleast make clothing that takes a few years to begin to degrade. I will have to look into the armor ideas well.

Right now I have a few spiders chained up that produce silk for me and all my clothing gets made out of that.

[i2amroy]

The only way to create clothing that doesn't wear out is to make it armor, in which case it needs to be assigned manually.

[Catsup]

i have a slightly different issue with clothes, its that my dwarves drop their slightly worn xclothesx everywhere they go, and it cant be picked back up or dumped except by the owner. I also find that dumping or moving clothing in general is quite slow compared to other items. Is there any way to fix this annoying dwarf behavior? it gets really fun when they drop their clothes in areas that arent safe and sometimes even on a raising bridge or refuse pile (which results in the clothes being destroyed).

[i2amroy]

If dwarves have individual rooms with coffers (might be cabinets, not sure) then they will store the old clothes in there. IIRC dwarves will only hang onto their second oldest set of clothing, so they should relinquish the older ones when given enough time (this will also occur with any that they just leave on the floor).

[Catsup]

is there a limit to coffer/cabinet storage? i only have 1 of each of those per bedroom and sometimes its shared between a couple.

[i2amroy]

YEs there is, though I'm not sure of the exact amount. Also be aware that "store owned item" has a pretty low priority, so unless dwarves have a fairly large amount of free time they tend not to do it.

[zooeyglass]

I've often considered adding everyone to a squad purely to assign them a uniform that they wear even when off-duty that consists of poorer-quality output from my armorsmiths. Armor still covers them up and prevents bad thoughts, and never decays. I guess it's just a matter of how much metal you've got, but you could even make it from the metals that are useless militarily if you've got an abundance of them. I've always been scared off by the encumbrance penalty from 0 armor user skill that most of them will have. Thoughts?

In an old fort, pre-when dwarves selected clothes for themselves (filled with forgotten beast extract that damaged when it came into contact with skin, making said skin rot & burst & killed maybe half the fortress, including all the children [a good thing?!?]), I actually ended up drafting every single dwarf (minus miners - I had no woodcutters/hunters) just to get them to wear clothes. It was a labour of love. Most everyone died anyway. (But there's no reason it wouldn't work!)

[Rydel]

Is there a way to make clothing that doesn't break down? Something that can be edited in the RAWS? Or atleast make clothing that takes a few years to begin to degrade. I will have to look into the armor ideas well.

If you're willing to edit the raws, making all clothing items have an armor value of 1 will stop them from degrading.  If you look at the raws for Masterwork, it's done that.

I don't think it requires a regen, but I could be wrong

[hanni79]

I have 5 clothing workshops

Found your problem. I had a single clothier, which became Legendary in under three years. He is completely enough to produce everything for around 75 Dwarves. I'm pretty sure you might simply be overproducing. I have to stop my Clothier from work regularly, otherwise I would literally drown in clothes.
Also, I have set up a Finished Goods stockpile which solely takes from the clothier. My second "Clothes" Stockpile is right besides the Trading Depot and I have to say, my Dwarves actually sort their stuff astonishingly well. Around 95% of all worn stuff lands here and only around 5% new. The important thing is to remember to never set up a third one, and to make the taking stockpile somewhat big. 

Oh, if anyone ever considers to use Minecarts to haul Clothes, be aware that this can stop your flow of clothes for quite some time. They can hold tremendous amounts of them, so you should make sure you have lots of them before you start to move them, otherwise it can happen all the clothes clog up in the Minecart for whole Seasons.

[Undeadlord]

Is there a way to make clothing that doesn't break down? Something that can be edited in the RAWS? Or atleast make clothing that takes a few years to begin to degrade. I will have to look into the armor ideas well.

If you're willing to edit the raws, making all clothing items have an armor value of 1 will stop them from degrading.  If you look at the raws for Masterwork, it's done that.

I don't think it requires a regen, but I could be wrong

Interesting I use MW and all my clothes degrade normally. Is there a setting for that I am not using correctly?

[greycat]

Clothing that is being worn by a dwarf will degrade slowly.  Clothing that is in a stockpile that has the "Refuse" category enabled will degrade more quickly.  Clothing that is sitting on any other tile, or stored in a cabinet, does not degrade as far as I know.

Personally I've found that letting my dwarves have cabinets in their room for clothing storage is a bad idea.  If they have cabinets, they can store dozens of pieces of clothing.  All those used clothes are tied up and unable to be used by some other dwarf.  If I don't give them cabinets, they can't hoard as many old clothes.  Then they just leave their old clothes on the floor somewhere, and after a few weeks the ownership goes away, and then some other dwarf can claim it, or move it to a stockpile.

[i2amroy]

Personally I've found that letting my dwarves have cabinets in their room for clothing storage is a bad idea.  If they have cabinets, they can store dozens of pieces of clothing.  All those used clothes are tied up and unable to be used by some other dwarf.  If I don't give them cabinets, they can't hoard as many old clothes.  Then they just leave their old clothes on the floor somewhere, and after a few weeks the ownership goes away, and then some other dwarf can claim it, or move it to a stockpile.

Even if old clothes are in cabinets dwarves will eventually release them back into the stockpiles (as far as I can tell this happens when they claim new clothes). Personally I never use old worn clothes (making new ones or stealing them from goblins is easier IMO) so the end tradeoff becomes whether you want clothes lying everywhere in exchange for a faster circulation or you can have clothes concentrated in the rooms in exchange for a longer cycle time for worn clothing.

[joeclark77]

If getting rid of the worn clothing is an issue, you can set up a stockpile that accepts only clothing, and then enable "Refuse" on that stockpile.  This causes the clothing in the stockpile to degrade (fairly quickly) and eventually vanish.

The drawback to this approach is that your tailor will get a bad thought whenever one of his masterwork pieces degrades.  This is why you want to ship old clothes away with the caravan.

[xcorps]

I have 5 clothing workshops

Found your problem. I had a single clothier, which became Legendary in under three years. He is completely enough to produce everything for around 75 Dwarves. I'm pretty sure you might simply be overproducing. I have to stop my Clothier from work regularly, otherwise I would literally drown in clothes.
Also, I have set up a Finished Goods stockpile which solely takes from the clothier. My second "Clothes" Stockpile is right besides the Trading Depot and I have to say, my Dwarves actually sort their stuff astonishingly well. Around 95% of all worn stuff lands here and only around 5% new. The important thing is to remember to never set up a third one, and to make the taking stockpile somewhat big. 

Oh, if anyone ever considers to use Minecarts to haul Clothes, be aware that this can stop your flow of clothes for quite some time. They can hold tremendous amounts of them, so you should make sure you have lots of them before you start to move them, otherwise it can happen all the clothes clog up in the Minecart for whole Seasons.

Thank you.  Do you make anything besides shoes, trousers and tunics? (aside from mandates)

[lwCoyote]

Roughly how long does it take clothing to wear out? Does it vary by material type and/or dwarf labour?