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Author Topic: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon- Suspect Killed, Suspect Caught  (Read 33222 times)

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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #240 on: April 17, 2013, 10:39:56 am »

Doesn't the northeast have a bunch of old IRA fugitives hiding along it? Not hard to imagine there could be some "lone wolf" crazy guy with knowledge of making bombs among those.

Except their beef has never really been with America, and they share cultural heritage with pretty much the whole of freakin' Boston. The IRA hasn't been a real force for terrorism in years, partly due to them trying to reform their own image and the leaders of the IRA trying to (or succeeding in) becoming active in politics.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #241 on: April 17, 2013, 10:45:28 am »

There have been some splinter groups of the IRA (Real IRA, Continuity IRA, and others who nobody cares about) who want to restart violent activities, though.  This could be their attempt to make a name for themselves (although it really doesn't fit the normal IRA MO at all).
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #242 on: April 17, 2013, 10:50:35 am »

I am now officially putting my money on some US citizen with right wing white supremacist nutjob worldveiws (maybe a small group of them), with domestic US al-Quaeda supporter a distant second place. The way the bits of information that are publicly availiable fit together it seems to me very unlikley to be anything else.

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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #243 on: April 17, 2013, 10:58:14 am »

Doesn't the northeast have a bunch of old IRA fugitives hiding along it? Not hard to imagine there could be some "lone wolf" crazy guy with knowledge of making bombs among those.

Except their beef has never really been with America, and they share cultural heritage with pretty much the whole of freakin' Boston. The IRA hasn't been a real force for terrorism in years, partly due to them trying to reform their own image and the leaders of the IRA trying to (or succeeding in) becoming active in politics.

I didn't say IRA itself was behind it, just that if it was a "lone wolf" who did it, one of those fugitives having gone over the Crazy Cliff might have both knowledge and experience with making and planting bombs.


I am now officially putting my money on some US citizen with right wing white supremacist nutjob worldveiws (maybe a small group of them), with domestic US al-Quaeda supporter a distant second place. The way the bits of information that are publicly availiable fit together it seems to me very unlikley to be anything else.

Put me up for right wing white supremacist domestic US al-Quaeda supporter ex-IRA nutjob.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #244 on: April 17, 2013, 12:54:38 pm »

Breaking news: The BBC are reporting that a suspect has been identified from CCTV footage.

Press conference at 9 PM GMT (5 PM ET). Apparently an arrest is going to be made.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #245 on: April 17, 2013, 01:26:54 pm »

I'm sorry, but there's no evidence that this was a right-wing extremist group attack. You can't pin it on them without having a good reason. If we're going by the "Evil Republican Tea Party Members" stereotype, then by bombing they must have wanted to kill blacks or Muslims or whoever MSNBC is saying that the Tea Party wants to kill. But this was just a plain, ordinary event, with no majority of the aforementioned groups.

You can, however, see how fact-free CNN is when they start to blame the bombings on the the Right immediately afterwards. Never let a crisis go to waste, right?
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #246 on: April 17, 2013, 01:32:09 pm »

Well, statistically it's likely to be a right wing nutjob, but that's not particularly meaningful or useful. Certainly no evidence beyond statistics that this is caused by one of them, to my knowledge.

But IF one were to put money down, it would probably be one of the better bets. Far from a safe bet, but one of the better ones.

But this conversation isn't actually useful.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #247 on: April 17, 2013, 02:43:08 pm »

You can, however, see how fact-free CNN is when they start to blame the bombings on the the Right immediately afterwards. Never let a crisis go to waste, right?

It really is easy to say that when you're ignorant of the precedent behind that.

I'd look out for 4/19 and 4/20 if this is a right-wing group or person. Anniversaries of Waco and Hitler respectively.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #248 on: April 17, 2013, 02:43:25 pm »

Tax Day + Boston 'Tea Party', is my best guess.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #249 on: April 17, 2013, 03:30:19 pm »


I read a story about an attempted bombing where the detonator was a calculator.

Sorry, I tried to divide by zero.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #250 on: April 17, 2013, 03:36:04 pm »

As long as no one's coming to a conclusion before the evidence, guessing who's the most likely culprit isn't really an issue.

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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #251 on: April 17, 2013, 04:21:21 pm »

Turns out the FBI went ahead and cancelled the press conference they planned to give this evening, and deny that any arrests have taken place, despite the Associated Press repeatedly asserting that one has been made.

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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #252 on: April 17, 2013, 05:51:09 pm »

You can, however, see how fact-free CNN is when they start to blame the bombings on the the Right immediately afterwards. Never let a crisis go to waste, right?

It really is easy to say that when you're ignorant of the precedent behind that.

I'd look out for 4/19 and 4/20 if this is a right-wing group or person. Anniversaries of Waco and Hitler respectively.
If you take that list as unbiased, you still have to consider that each of those attacks attributed to Rightists had, in every twisted, retarded, and absolutely-fucked-up sense of the word possible, a "reason". Comsidering that the target was not a political orginazation, a minority group, or a government building, the attack doesn't scan with the aforementioned "Evil Republican Tea Party Members" stereotype.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #253 on: April 17, 2013, 05:56:06 pm »

If you take that list as unbiased, you still have to consider that each of those attacks attributed to Rightists had, in every twisted, retarded, and absolutely-fucked-up sense of the word possible, a "reason". Comsidering that the target was not a political orginazation, a minority group, or a government building, the attack doesn't scan with the aforementioned "Evil Republican Tea Party Members" stereotype.




The joy of connecting right-wing extremism directly to Tea Party. Good thing noone's come close to saying that, in this most twisted way you've managed to come up with. Need a pitchfork to help you out?

CNN actually claimed it was a 'Dark-skinned' male [see: Arab] arrested today before the FBI told everyone to shut up with that.
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Re: Bombs explode during Boston Marathon - Many injured, 3 confirmed dead
« Reply #254 on: April 17, 2013, 06:23:23 pm »

If you take that list as unbiased, you still have to consider that each of those attacks attributed to Rightists had, in every twisted, retarded, and absolutely-fucked-up sense of the word possible, a "reason". Comsidering that the target was not a political orginazation, a minority group, or a government building, the attack doesn't scan with the aforementioned "Evil Republican Tea Party Members" stereotype.




The joy of connecting right-wing extremism directly to Tea Party. Good thing noone's come close to saying that, in this most twisted way you've managed to come up with. Need a pitchfork to help you out?

CNN actually claimed it was a 'Dark-skinned' male [see: Arab] arrested today before the FBI told everyone to shut up with that.
I was referencing the stereotype. I didn't mean Tea Party, that's just what everyone thinks of when they hear about right wing extremism.
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