I’ll address this first shall I? Some small minute things first. So how about you claim your house so that someone will be able to visit? :-/ Also, is your wincon game-ending? Do you leave the game?
When I first saw this I thought it was just a towny being suspicious but scum would have a huge reason to learn what house he lives in and if his ability is game ending. I think it was obvious that you didn’t plan on helping him at all in the first place so how would knowing any of this information help you. To me it looks like you are going for an easy lynch or you are just trying to siphon away some information to help yourself and your scumbuddies.
If you haven't noticed, Town also has a huge incentive to know if his wincon is game ending. If it was, town would lose too. Knowing his house would theoretically help a mafia member by eliminating a house off of the potential townie house list, but it would also help a townie member to find out who's house is mafia's, and who's house isn't.
Moving on.
Solifuge, are you planning to do anything that isn't contentless shitpictureposts today? Your 'main' post yesterday (#748) was basically defending Lenglon, stealing other people's reasons for voting Nerjin (those reason being stealing other people's reasons for votes) and FOSMGUSing me for... lurking? Seriously? That's the best case you've got after an entire day? (well, not counting your 'case' on Nerjin)
What I want to point out here is not really your posturing towards Solifuge but the way you’re FOSing nerjin. “scum but less so”. first, you are scum or you are not. You can’t technically be “less so”. I feel like there is an almost general consensus that Nerjin is likely scum compared to silifuge who while has been playing poorly for sure, has not been giving off major scumtells. This portion of your post looks more like you trying to say “nerjin is scum, but I’m not going to really pay any attention to him because he is my scum buddy”. You FOS and then forget. Seems legit.
Point obviously completely reliant on both Nerjin and Dariush being scum.
Toaster: If they have an easy kill against one of their enemies, why not use it? And/or create a lot of WIFOM
That's some awfully certain knowledge about how scum uses their kill, Ranger.
Timezone ninjas, ninjaing posts by several hours while the ninjee is sleeping. TIMEZONE NINJAS EVERYWHERE.
If you're telling the truth about being third party, then there is no reason for scum to kill you. Even if you publicly say your house number, the scum will merely know which house they should avoid to not stumble onto the third party. (of course, this only applies if they have a per-house targeting and not per-person and that you're not town fakeclaiming third party, because if you are then why would you even do that) Since it's a pretty safe bet they know the scummates's identity and house numbers, then regardless of their method of targeting they get an 'easy kill' merely by not attacking each other.
Even though my read on you fell through the floor, I'm still going to give you one last chance to redeem yourself. Claim your house.
Daruish-What are your thoughts on Ford's role? How about Ranger's? Nerjin just left us and has been replaced by Guardsman, how will you use this to your advantage? Do scummy do you find Guardsman?
RVS questions? On second day? Lazyass is being lazy. Also, this is the last time I'm acknowledging questions containing a typo in my name.
1) It's unlikely that such power would be possessed by scum. This would allow them to sit on the sidelines and let town devour itself. Pretty OP, IMO. 2) See above. 3) To my advantage? I'm not scum, unlike you. 4) I would prefer not to play with him at all. At the time of your post, he hasn't made a single post. Isn't that a bit too early to make assumptions?
Ah, I think Nerjin-san is a big stupid head. Why would he leave us? was he a stupid bully? And i think they are all good people! Except Tiruin-san. Hes a bit on the mean side, De Arimasu! (amidoingitright
NQT
NQT-San is obvously a bully! De Arimasu!
Wow, you're stupid.
Why did we even let him into this game?...
Really? A lot of fluff? You are picking and choosing choice examples of Dariush's posts, while claiming to go through every single one.
He explains a HUGE logical fallacy in RangerCado's thinking, something that you conveniently forget.
Even though my read on you fell through the floor, I'm still going to give you one last chance to redeem yourself. Claim your house.
Did you seriously threaten him to just tell you his house number? That thing that you can use to kill him. Well, ranger’s reasons for not saying his house number are dumb due to the fact that we already agreed that scum wouldn’t target him but there are other reasons that I have already stated in posts before this one as to why he wouldn’t want to claim his house.
your reasons for "why he wouldn't want to claim his house" would be more valid if RangerCado ever agreed with them, or commented on them in any positive form whatsoever. He didn't. Therefore we can conclude that your guess of why he did what he did is wrong.
Here you are trying to pull the information out of him, and later as we will see soon, you attack him for claiming due to being hesitant. No matter what he would be guilty. Way to use that good old catch 22 on him there. No matter what, he is one screwed mafia player.
It's my personal opinion that the fact that RangerCado yielded under pressure while not really changing his opinion is what really made him scummy.
Isn't that a bit too early to make assumptions?
Lazy ass is being lazy. You are avoiding the area of trying to make “assumptions” because he is your scumbudy and you don’t want to put him in everyone’s line of focus. You’re also not posting anything here with significant content.
Of course it's a bit to early to make assumptions. HE HASN'T POSTED YET! He also answered your questions. What more content do you want?
Ah, I think Nerjin-san is a big stupid head. Why would he leave us? was he a stupid bully? And i think they are all good people! Except Tiruin-san. Hes a bit on the mean side, De Arimasu! (amidoingitright
NQT
NQT-San is obvously a bully! De Arimasu!
Wow, you're stupid.
Why did we even let him into this game?...
“Ahaha, good old Dariush, just being mean to everybody 
He is just acting natural and is a grump, now time for me to go pay attention to someone who isn't Dar~” Trying to look natural when attacking someone wile presenting no content… seeing as this is the replacement of your scumbuddy of course you would avoid starting a real case on them.
Do you need a thorough examination of IG's three posts to understand why he was playing bad? I'd assume that was obvious. But again, your whole point is completely reliant on Nwejin AND Dariush being scum.
Moving on.
Because i shouldn't be up at midnight? I made it bigger for this reason, the way you think i'll just be overlooked by the bullies. That, and better to be safe than sorry.
What. How does this shitstain of a post even remotely resemble an explanation about how you demanded two people to ask you your number and immediately increased that number by two after I became one of those two people? You are back-tracking, cowardly, lying scum. Solifuge can go fuck himself, I want to see you dead. Cado.
Do you disagree with anything specific in this post of his, or are you going to stick with interpreting the meaning posts without actually disagreeing with the content? You accuse him of calling Cado scum. How does this make him scummy? Note that his is the only complaint that you actually have about the CONTENT of this post.
"[/colorDariush. I'd like to ask on how your attitude shifted quite..a lot there. You said back
Daruish-What are your thoughts on Ford's role? How about Ranger's? Nerjin just left us and has been replaced by Guardsman, how will you use this to your advantage? Do scummy do you find Guardsman?
RVS questions? On second day? Lazyass is being lazy. Also, this is the last time I'm acknowledging questions containing a typo in my name.
1) It's unlikely that such power would be possessed by scum. This would allow them to sit on the sidelines and let town devour itself. Pretty OP, IMO. 2) See above. 3) To my advantage? I'm not scum, unlike you. 4) I would prefer not to play with him at all. At the time of your post, he hasn't made a single post. Isn't that a bit too early to make assumptions?
here about your take on Ranger. Did a tiny tidbit about house number really irritate you that much? How does that make him backtracking scum?
When I said 'see above', I meant 'literally see the part of my post that is above this one where I adress Cado'. He promised a piece of information in exchange for the fulfillment of certain conditions. The moment those conditions started to become satisfied, he changed them. So, to answer your question, no, it didn't irritate me, it merely showed that Cado is lying scum.
WTF? If I understand this correctly, you're main complaint about this post of his is that he was irritated and he didn't quote the posts that prove him right. Then you give a rambling explanation of why Cado would raise the bar is if it makes Dariush scum for not automatically assuming that's what happened. Of course, your logic is flawed. If Cado's reasoning for raising the bar was that, he would of said so. He also wouldn't of changed his mind under pressure.
ZU: They know my house. Guarunteed kill regardless of if they need to know it or not...
You know, you are quickly approaching the state where I am less certain that you are scum and I begin hoping that you are scum. Because if you're not, then what you are doing is astounding in its stupidity.
IF YOU ARE THIRD PARTY THEN SCUM HAS NO REASON TO KILL YOU INSTEAD OF LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY KNOW YOUR HOUSE OR NOT. IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND FOR YOUR STUPID FACE?!
If you are scum, however, then hooray! You are merely a bad player. My faith in humanity has been restored. By about 0.00001%.
Did you disagree with the bolded part? I don't care about a stupid coin. I don't even care if he's just being a jerk. I care about whether his statement is right or not.
I found you, and still find you, scummy. This question was not purely random, it was using the current circumstances presented to me to try to see if you were hiding something, and to see if you would reveal any poor cover up strategies with your scumbuddy. Gathering everyone's oppinions of ford's and ranger's roles was important because if people start contradicting themselves something may be up. Currently I see that you are leading a bit of a bandwaggon against ranger.
Is bandwagoning a valid scumtell?
Imperial Guardsman - Nerjin has left a bad taste in my mouth. How do you taste? What are your views of Nerjin. Specifically, I'm curious as to what you think of vote mania but I'm curious about your general reads. What do you think of PotL, Tiruin and Solifuge.
This question's purpose was to try to use the replacing player to "triangulate" whether Nerjin was scum or not. IG didn't play... as expected, so the question was null and void.
Everyone- Not asking for WIFOM, just some insight from the public, does anyone here have an opinion that they would like to share about the night. (Nk's, questionable actions etc.)
I think it is important to hear everyone's oppinions of what happened and how we should approach the day.
Birdy- Could you list the major problems with nerjin's and IG's play and try to justify why they played the way they did.
This is once again me attempting to "triangulate" their alignment. I do believe nerjin & accomplices are scum but continued pressure will likely yield greater results.
Dariush- I realize your a bit of a prickly cactus but you seem to change your votes more based on emotion, gut feeling and anger. Is this true? If so why, if not is there something you particularly find significant about your scumhunting?
Your "perfect scumhunting" isn't as perfect as you claim. Don't get full of your self. Your scumhunting day one was practically the opposite of perfect. You cursed people out for colours and pictures and then didn't lead a compelling case for the person you wished to lynch (solifuge) in case you have forgotten already. If you were perfect there would be no reason for us to question you in the first place because your perfect scumhunting would put a flawless case in front of our noses.
Does having an inflated opinion of ones scumhunting ability make someone scummy? If not, I don't understand what place this paragraph has in this post.
OK. posting this tonight. I"m not sure if I missed anything, i'm pretty tired. I'll also probably finish responding to your post tomorrow.
PPE: EVERYONE
1. why would a towny want to narrow down a scums house number. We should scumhunt. Not try to find them in the middle of the night. This method is likely dangerous because you may come in contact with the scum and it does not seem efficient.
2. Of course it is reliant on them being scum.. well, not exactly. It is boosted if they are both scum. I am sure that at least one of them is scum and finding inconsistencies in the actions taken by the two people I find scummiest is something I would class as a scumtell. My point still can stand on it's own even if nerjin wasn't scum however.
3. The reason I stated "a lot of fluff" was because I figured what he said was obvious and didn't require being said. By saying it, he would apear to be on top of things but he would really just be saying the obvious thing that everyone was already thinking. Why do you think so many people saw ranger as scum? Because of these inconsistencies really.
4.No one said that ranger knows how to take advantage of a situation. It would have been easy for him to use my points. He just didn't because he was turtleing and trying to hide from the swift and painful blows of Dar. What I am trying to say is, my points are still valid and can't be thrown out the window that easily. Dar had to at least take my opinions into account, which he didn't seem to do.
5.Your opinion so I have nothing really to say there.
6.You can make assumptions right off the bat. "Oh, nerjin was scummy so IG will likely try to suck up" or "I'm surprised he hasn't posted yet due to Nerjin's track record, he has a lot to make up for". That's all. Anything. Any insight, but from Dariush, nothing, nada, zip.
7. Once again, it's more inconsistencies that make him scummy. If they were both scum that would strengthen all my theories but they do still stand by themselves.
8.I'm sorry for making a case differently than how you would prefer. I prefer analyzing over direct, "you're wrong 'cause of this". Also, my main complaint with this wasn't that he was calling cado scum but that his entire case felt like he was utilizing catch 22 to make him inevitably right and look good. Also taking the easy route and just plowing on through weak players definitely make him look scummy to me.
9.My main point was that ranger could have raised the bar to prevent scum from finding him out easily. Also, please take into account that these are quotes from the time that it was all happening so while right now we know that ranger wasn't thinking that way at the time we didn't know and Dariush surely saw all the flaws to his attack and the defenses of cado.
10.His statement may or may not be right depending on the conditions of the scum NK's. In this game, even though he wasn't a threat to mafia he might have been an easy target. In other words, scum might have still had intensive to NK him.
11.Yes. Bandwagoning is a scumtell.
12.I don't know what paragraph you are referring to.
I would have put that quote in a spoiler but it wouldn't format properly for me :\
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