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Author Topic: How good is a bone sword?  (Read 1969 times)

laxori666

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How good is a bone sword?
« on: April 10, 2013, 12:00:24 am »

I have a sword worth 1 million urists. Though 3 adamantine wafers went into its making, unfortunately the wafers only went into making spites, an image of a large pot and an image of laboring dwarves, leaving the sword itself to be made of... dog bone.

In any case, how effective would this weapon actually be in combat?

EDIT: Ah this reminds me that, earlier on, a fine gentledwarf made a large rat bone battle axe... same question applies.
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2013, 12:07:08 am »

Not terribly.

You need to pump weapon smithing to get metal weapon and armor artifacts.  Bone, wood, and stone items are usually next to worthless as anything besides training weapons.

Bone is lightweight, and doesn't have a good edge parameter. So, as swords and axes, it falls pretty flat.

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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2013, 12:11:49 am »

It will probably work alright against animals, or anything unarmored.  Trouble is, even the crappiest armor an invader is going to show up with is going to ignore the sword if it hits.  Being an artifact just means it has a bonus to hit, it won't penetrate any better than any other bone weapon.
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2013, 12:18:33 am »

It will cut flesh, but not bone (so no severs!). It will be effective vs. leather armor, but not against anything else.

You could build it in a weapon trap to improve the value of a room.

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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 12:21:03 am »

It will cut flesh, but not bone (so no severs!). It will be effective vs. leather armor, but not against anything else.

You could build it in a weapon trap to improve the value of a room.
Would there be a high or a low chance of a dwarf getting whacked by said bone sword? Well, I guess it wouldn't be too fatal even if it did...
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 12:38:10 am »

It will cut flesh, but not bone (so no severs!). It will be effective vs. leather armor, but not against anything else.

You could build it in a weapon trap to improve the value of a room.
Would there be a high or a low chance of a dwarf getting whacked by said bone sword? Well, I guess it wouldn't be too fatal even if it did...

If they trigger the trap, probably a pretty good chance they'll be hit.  But they shouldn't be triggering the trap unless they fall stunned or unconscious atop it.  Don't think "Entrance Corridor trap."  Think "Dining Room decoration," preferably just inside the door so dwarfs can be amazed by the legendary dining room and have a chance to admire the furniture specifically as they pass it.
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 09:06:06 am »

I equipped one of my soldiers with an artifact bone sword, the squad went on to fight a goblin ambush and the guy wielding the bone sword was the only casualty. Obviously due to the cat bone sword.
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2013, 09:48:24 am »

not much better than a wooden one, definitely worse than copper.

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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 12:24:32 am »

Have you ever successfully cut yourself very hard on a bone knife?

I didn't think so.

Yeah, best use for that thing is as decoration. If it weren't for the whole artifacts-are-bugged-as-shit thing, I might suggest going on a rampage with it in adventure mode just for great ironic justice, but, nah. An interior decorator is you!
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 01:32:24 pm »

uh, sorry posted in wrong section. How do you delete posts?
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2013, 04:55:31 pm »

uh, sorry posted in wrong section. How do you delete posts?
You can't. Usually I just edit them to a "wrong section" message.
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2013, 07:14:54 am »

Not terribly.

You need to pump weapon smithing to get metal weapon and armor artifacts.  Bone, wood, and stone items are usually next to worthless as anything besides training weapons.

Bone is lightweight, and doesn't have a good edge parameter. So, as swords and axes, it falls pretty flat.

I've been pumping weaponsmithing on all my 60ish dwarves until they were Adequate.

Only one of them made a weapon, everybody else typically claims Craftsdwarf's Workshop and Jeweler's shop...
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 09:38:04 am »

Not terribly.

You need to pump weapon smithing to get metal weapon and armor artifacts.  Bone, wood, and stone items are usually next to worthless as anything besides training weapons.

Bone is lightweight, and doesn't have a good edge parameter. So, as swords and axes, it falls pretty flat.

I've been pumping weaponsmithing on all my 60ish dwarves until they were Adequate.

Only one of them made a weapon, everybody else typically claims Craftsdwarf's Workshop and Jeweler's shop...
What shop they claim is based on their highest moodable skill.  Those dwarves were apparently better craftsdwarves and jewelers than weaponsmiths.
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 11:16:18 am »

I've been pumping weaponsmithing on all my 60ish dwarves until they were Adequate.

Only one of them made a weapon, everybody else typically claims Craftsdwarf's Workshop and Jeweler's shop...
What shop they claim is based on their highest moodable skill.  Those dwarves were apparently better craftsdwarves and jewelers than weaponsmiths.
Or they just didn't have enough weaponsmith skill to mood that and since they were skill-less they went to a craftsdwarf shop.
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Re: How good is a bone sword?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2013, 11:33:27 am »

I've been pumping weaponsmithing on all my 60ish dwarves until they were Adequate.

Only one of them made a weapon, everybody else typically claims Craftsdwarf's Workshop and Jeweler's shop...
What shop they claim is based on their highest moodable skill.  Those dwarves were apparently better craftsdwarves and jewelers than weaponsmiths.
Or they just didn't have enough weaponsmith skill to mood that and since they were skill-less they went to a craftsdwarf shop.

I'm fairly certain any skill level is sufficient, but I think it's a roll to determine what gets mooded. I think.
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