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Re: Me and my partner
« Reply #150 on: June 11, 2013, 08:08:58 pm »

.... You confuse me.

Hopefully you're the only one ;D
Count me among the confused.

YES. Unfriend her, block her on your phone, set up a filter to delete any email from her, stop reading anything from her.

No, no, no bad idea. He clearly wants to still be friends with her, I think that's taking it too far. That's actually quite immature, in fact it
There probably are circumstances where "staying friends" might work. This is not one. Unfriend. Never look back.
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« Reply #151 on: June 11, 2013, 08:24:24 pm »

.... You confuse me.

Hopefully you're the only one ;D
Count me among the confused.

YES. Unfriend her, block her on your phone, set up a filter to delete any email from her, stop reading anything from her.

No, no, no bad idea. He clearly wants to still be friends with her, I think that's taking it too far. That's actually quite immature, in fact it
There probably are circumstances where "staying friends" might work. This is not one. Unfriend. Never look back.

Eh, I don't want to make that decision for the OP, nor should anyone else. To me doing something like that to someone he claims to have a very strong bond with doesn't feel right, but at the end of the day its how he feels and his decision, hence me asking him to reflect on it.
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« Reply #152 on: June 11, 2013, 08:28:08 pm »

Have you read the rest of the thread? She's done this a lot. She's been using him, and it's time that stopped.
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« Reply #153 on: June 11, 2013, 08:29:51 pm »

It's not immature to leave an abuser.
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« Reply #154 on: June 11, 2013, 11:35:52 pm »

It's not immature to leave an abuser.

This. I'll just +1 this, again. She's an abuser, OP is a victim. Trust me, it's a familiar situation that will only end when it's completely done and gone.

Just turn and walk away, man.
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
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« Reply #155 on: June 12, 2013, 12:49:36 am »

Wowzers
« Last Edit: September 05, 2019, 02:14:21 pm by zehive »
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« Reply #156 on: June 12, 2013, 12:58:05 am »

Im going to have to unfriend her (...) this is hurting me.

There. That's the most important thing you said. If she really and truly gave a damn she wouldn't be fucking that other guy what's-his-face. Man up. Take your ball and go home. Unfriend her, because she isn't your friend. Leave. Now. Go.
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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« Reply #157 on: June 12, 2013, 01:57:24 am »

It's not immature to leave an abuser.

This. I'll just +1 this, again. She's an abuser, OP is a victim. Trust me, it's a familiar situation that will only end when it's completely done and gone.

Just turn and walk away, man.

Yeah.  I've done this tango too many times.  It's time to walk, bud.
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« Reply #158 on: June 12, 2013, 08:25:51 pm »

The focal point here is when zehive said he still wants Vienna to be his friend, regardless of the fact that she was "abusing" him. That actually takes quite a lot of commitment, it shows their strong bond and also the fact that they are very good friends, and if you were to think about it logically, there are reasons why the OP still feels connections for her regardless of the way he was treated. In fact saying that alone really stands out and resonates above everything else he has said, to me at least.

Now, if he hadn't said something like that it would be a different story altogether, in fact that was a very mature decision zehive, even though you probably meant having her as much more than a friend, I still applaud you with what you said, you have a very kind mind.

I met an American girl a few years back she fell in love with me and I with her. But she also loved someone else, her previous lover, and another guy and another. Of course this burned, but how could it move my love for her. Coming back home we had regular skype calls for 5 months, it was also very enjoyable, yet she still had love for others though she hailed mine above all.

Then came summer and I left for vacation for 2 weeks and on my return she told me she had a boyfriend, she pause my calls to talk to him, our calls became less frequent she claimed love but all I could see was a fire demon. But then it struck me, she was confused, in fact I had learned she ran away from home because of my leaving, she actually depended on me for her comfort, that much. Yet she could still get a boyfriend, love him, love me, love anyone else. It burned a lot at the time, but then it hit me, she did not actually want to hurt me, not answering, treating this new one the way she treated me, it felt absurd, and like she was something I don't wish to call her, but most importantly I realised she was emotionally immature. And zehive, thats what I believe Vienna is, emotionally immature, she doesn't mean to hurt you at all. Unfortunately, a lot of people are raised that way, and I pity your situation, she just can't make a decision.

Now, I have no idea what the world is coming to if someone is just expected to be abused, suck it up and leave. You should end a stronger man, suffering a bunch of pain and tears, will just be a waste otherwise or you will find yourself in this situation again, and so will Vienna to someone else. That is option 1, option 2 can be much, much better. Its like a playground bully you can suck it up and walk away and you would be fine, you'd just be another coward, fine. Now lets saythat playground bully was your best friend, you could suck it up and walk away, leaving your friend to suffer, and you suffered for no reason. To me that is BS by all means and I just cannot agree with it, so yes it is more than obviously immature to unfriend her, it helps noone, those scars are rubbed deeper into zehive's heart, not trusting anyone again, his heart will still skip a beat at the yell Vienna and the girl will also be an emotional wreck, if zehive can fix this he can fix this good.

He doesn't want to do remove her from his life, and thats reason enough to keep her, you aren't treating the girl as anything more than a slut, but I see her as a human being like us all

I took way too long to respond but I hope you haven't done anything that's worth regretting yet. Vector I still ask you to make a response to this, not only because I haven't had anyone willing to have an intelligent argument with me for a while, or for further philanthropy on this topic, but also for zehive's sake and for his ability to choose a path, also I would like to know why you told him otherwise.
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« Reply #159 on: June 12, 2013, 08:40:25 pm »

Yall got some uhhh... YEET
« Last Edit: September 05, 2019, 02:14:57 pm by zehive »
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« Reply #160 on: June 12, 2013, 09:13:29 pm »

Vector I still ask you to make a response to this, not only because I haven't had anyone willing to have an intelligent argument with me for a while, or for further philanthropy on this topic, but also for zehive's sake and for his ability to choose a path, also I would like to know why you told him otherwise.

Because I've had two abusive boyfriends, most of my friends (male and female) have had abusive significant others, and by goodness I am pretty sure I know a bad situation when I see one.

You keep on getting pulled back, over and over and over, because they knew you intimately enough to wreck your mind, because they give you a little of what you need and withhold the rest, dangling it over your head.  You get pulled back when you don't want to be back, and at the same time as you say "I want to be friends" (so you don't have to admit to yourself just how bad everything has gotten), you're miserable.  You spin yourself in your same stupid circles and everything about the other person becomes bound up in a quagmire of fear and anxiety and oversignificance, and you can't fucking leave.  And it feels hopeless.  You know you have to leave but you can't.

And often, you realize that it doesn't matter if they're a fundamentally bad guy, or changed, or not.  Your brain is too fucked by being around them.  The mature thing is to take care of yourself and walk away.
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« Reply #161 on: June 12, 2013, 10:08:15 pm »

Am I allowed to reply or am I just too inhumane and illogical to deal with? :)
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And then, they will be weaponized. Like everything in this game, from kittens to babies, everything is a potential device of murder.
So if baseless speculation is all we have, we might as well treat it like fact.

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« Reply #162 on: June 12, 2013, 10:28:02 pm »

Vector I still ask you to make a response to this, not only because I haven't had anyone willing to have an intelligent argument with me for a while, or for further philanthropy on this topic, but also for zehive's sake and for his ability to choose a path, also I would like to know why you told him otherwise.

Because I've had two abusive boyfriends, most of my friends (male and female) have had abusive significant others, and by goodness I am pretty sure I know a bad situation when I see one.

You keep on getting pulled back, over and over and over, because they knew you intimately enough to wreck your mind, because they give you a little of what you need and withhold the rest, dangling it over your head.  You get pulled back when you don't want to be back, and at the same time as you say "I want to be friends" (so you don't have to admit to yourself just how bad everything has gotten), you're miserable.  You spin yourself in your same stupid circles and everything about the other person becomes bound up in a quagmire of fear and anxiety and oversignificance, and you can't fucking leave.  And it feels hopeless.  You know you have to leave but you can't.

And often, you realize that it doesn't matter if they're a fundamentally bad guy, or changed, or not.  Your brain is too fucked by being around them.  The mature thing is to take care of yourself and walk away.

What you do not realise is both emotional and mental abuse is a two-way thing, as I have pointed out, the way to deal with it is to realise what the other person is going through. No one does anything bad without a reason, and I think everyone deserves a chance to be understood.
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« Reply #163 on: June 12, 2013, 10:36:50 pm »

. . .

Yeah, I think you just landed yourself in the toolbox.  I'm done here.
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« Reply #164 on: June 12, 2013, 10:45:41 pm »

. . .

Yeah, I think you just landed yourself in the toolbox.  I'm done here.

I think you misunderstand, its not nearly as idealistic as it sounds its just changing the way you look at people, believe it or not it actually works.
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