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[i2amroy]

I built my well but when my dwarves go to drink from it they never take a drink. I know the well is working because the bucket is moving through the z-lvls. I have checked just about everything that could be wrong with it but nothing has worked. Because I am playing on a glacier map, could it be possible that the water is freezing in the bucket on the way up? please help I have already lost two dwarves to dehydration.

[Dwarf Fanatic]

Um... water levels get lower per drink. Go down and dig a bigger whole.

[umiman]

If it's as you describe, there shouldn't be any problems. Try to answer the following questions and we might be able to give a better diagnosis:

1. How long ago did you see the bucket and line move?
2. What's the water level at the bottom of the well?
3. What's the condition of the water at the bottom of the well? When you highlight the water with "k", what does it say?
4. Are you trying to give water to wounded dwarves?
5. Since you saw the dwarves use the well, did they change the "thirsty" tag in the wounds screen?

I can answer number 4 right now though, if the answer is "Yes". The answer is that your dwarves aren't bringing them water and something interrupts them from completing the "give water" task (or they just aren't bothered).

[Danaru]

quote:I can answer number 4 right now though, if the answer is "Yes". The answer is that your dwarves aren't bringing them water and something interrupts them from completing the "give water" task (or they just aren't bothered).[/QB]

Ah, the wonders of Dwarven Health Care

[AlmostEverywhere]

Or, you don't have extra buckets to bring them water.

[critical miracle]

I've also noticed that my well is listed as "ACTIVE" when I highlight it with the [q] menu. What does yours say?

I'm going to piggyback this thread, since I'm having "well problems" as ...well.

The water in my well has become stagnant, but I can't open up the floodgate to the brook without flooding my fortress (well is 1 Z below source). How do I keep the water flowing? Can I suck the stagnant water out with screw pumps and dump it back into the brook?

[bigmcstrongmuscle]

Use a second floodgate to create an airlock. Close the inner gate and open the outer one to fill the airlock with water. Close the outer one and open the inner to drain the water into your fort. Just don't open both at once.

[umiman]

Actually, Dwarves don't care what water the well is drawing from so long as it's water. It seems they have a problem drinking murky water from ponds and the like, but when it comes to wells... so long as they think they are drinking water, it's all good.

Hidden Social Commentary Fun Stuff?

[critical miracle]

quote:Originally posted by bigmcstrongmuscle:
<STRONG>Use a second floodgate to create an airlock. Close the inner gate and open the outer one to fill the airlock with water. Close the outer one and open the inner to drain the water into your fort. Just don't open both at once.</STRONG>

I actually have 4 floodgates in the design so I could divert water if some poor sod went diving. I just lost track of which lever is which and filled the well shaft to the brim. After at least 2 years and 140 dorfs the level hasn't dropped significantly.

But what's the best way to get the water out of the system so I can work on it? I want to link up a second well to it and possibly a waterfall, but then I have to find a place to dispose of the excess water.

quote:Originally posted by umiman:
<STRONG>Actually, Dwarves don't care what water the well is drawing from so long as it's water. It seems they have a problem drinking murky water from ponds and the like, but when it comes to wells... so long as they think they are drinking water, it's all good.

Hidden Social Commentary Fun Stuff?</STRONG>

Hm. I haven't checked everyone's thoughts. I only noticed that water in the buckets was "Stagnant". I'm going to have to go around reading some disabled dorf minds to see what they thing about the water being brought to them.

[umiman]

Water in buckets, waterskins, and any other carrying thing are always stagnant. It doesn't affect anything.

[Earthquake Damage]

quote:Originally posted by umiman:
<STRONG>so long as they think they are drinking water, it's all good.</STRONG>

Tried a magma well yet?

[Lyrax]

quote:Originally posted by umiman:
<STRONG>Water in buckets, waterskins, and any other carrying thing are always stagnant. It doesn't affect anything.</STRONG>

Part A is not true, and part B is not true of adventure mode!  Adventurers don't drink stagnant water.  That's disgusting.

Anyhoo, any water that passes through, has passed through, or will pass through a murky pool is stagnant water, at least in adventure mode.  I once contaminated a whole brook that way.

In Fort mode, I *think* only murky pool water is stagnant, and it doesn't seem to matter much to fort dwarves.  Dunno why.

[umiman]

Lyrax: go check the water in a bucket. It's always stagnant.

And adventurers drink stagnant water in adventurer mode when they are thirsty. They won't drink stagnant water when they don't have the "thirsty" tag and give you that message. Furthermore, this question wasn't about adventurer mode, so it doesn't particularly apply.

[i2amroy]

quote:Originally posted by umiman:
<STRONG>If it's as you describe, there shouldn't be any problems. Try to answer the following questions and we might be able to give a better diagnosis:

1. How long ago did you see the bucket and line move?
2. What's the water level at the bottom of the well?
3. What's the condition of the water at the bottom of the well? When you highlight the water with "k", what does it say?
4. Are you trying to give water to wounded dwarves?
5. Since you saw the dwarves use the well, did they change the "thirsty" tag in the wounds screen?

I can answer number 4 right now though, if the answer is "Yes". The answer is that your dwarves aren't bringing them water and something interrupts them from completing the "give water" task (or they just aren't bothered).</STRONG>

the answers to your questions are:
1:The bucket is currently moving up and down as I have 6 dwarves attempting to drink from the well
2:the water level is 7/7
3: the water is clean and not muddy
4: no
5: no

Just to clarify, when the dwarves go to take a drink, they never actually leave the well. They just stand around it with Drink as their job. Also, the water was created by filling the level below the glacier ice with magma, melting the ice.

[AlmostEverywhere]

That leads to an important question:  Is this well outdoors?

[ April 23, 2008: Message edited by: AlmostEverywhere ]