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[Max White]

If you punch a healthy person, it isn't physical abuse

I think that sums up a large part of why I dislike her series very well.

[Vector]

Bechdel test to be supplemented by the "Mako Mori" test--what do you guys think?

[Bauglir]

I like. The claims that it's an idea with value, that it's not an automatic qualifier for feminism, and that it's not a replacement for the Bechdel Test itself are all good ones.

EDIT: Mind you, I've never seen the film.

[Vector]

I actually think she's the least-sexualized woman with a speaking part I've ever seen in a film outside of Ripley.

[Bauglir]

This pleases me - reasons to look forward to watching it beyond its basic premise are... I don't even know. Like frosting on an already-amazing cake, only delicious (unlike frosting >_________>)

[Neonivek]

I like. The claims that it's an idea with value, that it's not an automatic qualifier for feminism, and that it's not a replacement for the Bechdel Test itself are all good ones.

EDIT: Mind you, I've never seen the film.

I think it is something that plays on the fact that everyone who uses the Bechdel Test lacks any sort of mental capacity or ability to think.

The Bechdel Test is a "rule of thumb" test the waters test so to speak. You use it and if you notice a discrepancy you look closer.

The problem is people wave it around like it is a Geiger counter that detects the amount of sexism in a product.

Which congratulations ANOTHER silly test that exists for the sole reason that people don't use their brains. Which will need another test because people were so dumb they needed another one. AHHHHHHH!!!

Ok rage over.

[Vector]

I think it is something that plays on the fact that everyone who uses the Bechdel Test lacks any sort of mental capacity or ability to think.

. . . This is really unnecessary, dude.

[Neonivek]

I think it is something that plays on the fact that everyone who uses the Bechdel Test lacks any sort of mental capacity or ability to think.

. . . This is really unnecessary, dude.

No, I explained my reasoning. You can say I am exaggerating but even you should notice that people abuse the Bechdel Test.

I honestly think that if this new test becomes popular it will be because of some notion that "The Bechdel test is inaccurate and needs to be supported" rather then because the Bechdel Test cannot look at every angle and perhaps we should use it to triangulate.

The best I can do is sweeten that statement up but "The test is created because people don't know better" is the same no matter how sacrine I make it.

[Vector]

I think it is something that plays on the fact that everyone who uses the Bechdel Test lacks any sort of mental capacity or ability to think.

. . . This is really unnecessary, dude.

No, I explained my reasoning. You can say I am exaggerating but even you should notice that people abuse the Bechdel Test.

C'mon, buddy.  You can do better than this.

[Neonivek]

No that is it.

[Rolan7]

The Bechdel test doesn't claim any given movie is sexist.  It demonstrates that the movie industry in general is sexist, by showing a trend too large to be coincidence.  I expected you to understand that, Neonivek.  Granted, people do misuse it a lot, but you don't seem to know any better than they do.

Anyone with a working brain would know that statements such as this one are not constructive. 

Edit: I did edit this post after you replied, I have a bad habit of editing a lot...  I did it so fast the edit-message didn't show up.

[Neonivek]

The Bechdel test doesn't claim any given movie is sexist, it demonstrates that movies in general are sexist.  I expected you to understand that, Neonivek.  Granted, people do misuse it a lot, but you don't seem to know any better than they do.

Anyone with a working brain would know that statements such as this one are not constructive.

You really should read what I wrote.

Wait... Maybe I should read what you just wrote. Dang it you created a paradox!

So... Do I dismiss what you wrote? >_>

[Rolan7]

I did.

The Bechdel Test is a "rule of thumb" test the waters test so to speak. You use it and if you notice a discrepancy you look closer.

This is wrong.

I think it is something that plays on the fact that everyone who uses the Bechdel Test lacks any sort of mental capacity or ability to think.

This is insulting and disappointing.

The problem is people wave it around like it is a Geiger counter that detects the amount of sexism in a product.

This is true, like I admitted.

Which congratulations ANOTHER silly test that exists for the sole reason that people don't use their brains. Which will need another test because people were so dumb they needed another one. AHHHHHHH!!!

Ok rage over.

This didn't really make sense

You really should read what I wrote.

This is hypocritical 

[Neonivek]

This is wrong

It really should be. Even many of the largest supporters know that there are easily ways for the Bechdel test to fail simply because, for example, the main character is the hero.

But either way, the majority of what I said is still how I feel. The Bechdel test is abused to absurdity without thought or reasoning, I give no credit to anything that attempts to supplement it.

[Vector]

Yes, but that usually points to a tendency for women to not be main characters or heroes in narratives.